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Topic # 225482 21-Nov-2017 10:47
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My optician suggested to me at a recent annual check that I consider stopping squinting at my phone and think about something a bit larger to view on, at least some of the time.


I have an Android phone and a Mac computer, which sort of leaves my third leg choice open - match the phone or the desktop!


I narrowed it down to iPad of some kind, Galaxy Tab s3, Samsung Chromebook Plus or Pro or MacBook Air.


The two Samsung Chromebooks look like good options aside from the fact that neither is legitimately available in NZ so would have to be pre-owned or imported. I like the S Pen and they will work with the Android apps I have already.


The Tab S3 has a better (probably the best) screen but worse keyboard (although I wouldn't be typing for hours on end) and arguable less functionality and a shorter design life. Also, Chrome is likely to get more longevity via updates than the plain Samsung version based on past performance.


The iPad is more expensive, has better hardware (at least in the Pro versions) and would run various apps I have from my iPhone days. Has better residual too and will get plenty of software updates. The Pencil is an additional cost and is not (allegedly) as good as the S Pen.


The Air is more expensive still, heavier but runs full OSX but no apps and does not sync that smoothly with Android phones (you can do it, and I am doing it, but smooth it isn't).


 


Use: travelling, movies on the road, web, email, calendar, etc. Ideally, if sensibly achievable, allowing at least the transfer of RAW image files from SD card to external HDD even if not useful for editing images.


 


Too much choice. Not enough industry/hardware experience. Help please! Thanks.


 


Edit - should add that I will need a keyboard cover for any of the tablet options


 






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  Reply # 1905138 21-Nov-2017 10:58
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Why not grab the cheaper 2017 9.7" iPad? Happy medium in which you get the ecosystem you know + the software support you desire without breaking the bank. The Pros - particular the 10.5" with its higher refresh rate - are very nice, but I'm not convinced they're worth the extra dosh unless you really want the pencil or the extra screen real estate.





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  Reply # 1905140 21-Nov-2017 11:00
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NikT:

 

Why not grab the cheaper 2017 9.7" iPad? Happy medium in which you get the ecosystem you know + the software support you desire without breaking the bank. The Pros - particular the 10.5" with its higher refresh rate - are very nice, but I'm not convinced they're worth the extra dosh unless you really want the pencil or the extra screen real estate.

 

 

This model is very good, and cost effective.

 

 





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  Reply # 1905144 21-Nov-2017 11:05
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Anything Android may not get any updates, some do for a year or so, some never get any updates, incl security updates

 

My Samsung Tab 7 NEVER has had any updates. Samsung abandoned it after release . Its a great device but consider update issues if used for banking etc
I wouldnt recommend one for that reason. Compared to Apple Ithings that do get updates

 

Some of the cheaper brands of Android tablets dont even have an official version of Android.
They could have some hacked together phablet Android, giving an issue with updates & support & apps .

 

 

 

 




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  Reply # 1905150 21-Nov-2017 11:20
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The downside of the iPad route is (a) another charger cable because they have not adopted USBC (or a dongle to convert, at least) and (b) AFAIK there is no way to connect an external drive to an iPad other than wifi which would be far too slow for transferring RAW files at the rate of hundreds per day I suspect. You cannot get more than 256Gb in that model and there's no micro SD expansion. Also no File Manager/Finder I think, which might not aid in the image transfer process.

 

I agree the device is not bad - and quite reasonable VFM now the Pro models have taken the limelight.

 

It seems everything has compromises of one sort or another!

 


Edit - can't get more than 128Gb!








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  Reply # 1905154 21-Nov-2017 11:24
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The larger 512Gb iPad Pro 10.5" is $1599 wifi only plus the keyboard, which makes it almost as much as a MacBook Air. Dropping to 256Gb makes it $1299.

 

You really do pay a large premium for the Pro models...!






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  Reply # 1905155 21-Nov-2017 11:29
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For your use case of transferring image files from camera SD card to external HDD, a chromebook is the obvious choice.  Apple goes out of their way to make this sort of thing difficult and/or cost extra

 

If you don't need a high-res screen (based on optician advice, 1366x768 on a 10-11in screen should be OK) then there are some very good value options for chromebooks


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Geektastic:

 

The downside of the iPad route is (a) another charger cable because they have not adopted USBC (or a dongle to convert, at least) and (b) AFAIK there is no way to connect an external drive to an iPad other than wifi which would be far too slow for transferring RAW files at the rate of hundreds per day I suspect. You cannot get more than 256Gb in that model and there's no micro SD expansion. Also no File Manager/Finder I think, which might not aid in the image transfer process.

 

I agree the device is not bad - and quite reasonable VFM now the Pro models have taken the limelight.

 

It seems everything has compromises of one sort or another!

 


Edit - can't get more than 128Gb!

 

 

 

 

Apple sells this for such a use-case with a dedicated camera. There do exist male USB-A to female USB-C adaptors, but are you using a dedicated camera or your Note8 for shooting RAW?

 

You may find a portable hard drive with WiFi connectivity and iOS + Android app support solves the rest, although it would be a somewhat clumsy and overengineered workaround.





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  Reply # 1905163 21-Nov-2017 11:44
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For your use case I'd suggest another option. A Microsoft Surface would be ideal and keep you from having to travel with a third device if you're prepared to let it replace your Macbook.




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  Reply # 1905165 21-Nov-2017 11:46
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NikT:

 

Geektastic:

 

The downside of the iPad route is (a) another charger cable because they have not adopted USBC (or a dongle to convert, at least) and (b) AFAIK there is no way to connect an external drive to an iPad other than wifi which would be far too slow for transferring RAW files at the rate of hundreds per day I suspect. You cannot get more than 256Gb in that model and there's no micro SD expansion. Also no File Manager/Finder I think, which might not aid in the image transfer process.

 

I agree the device is not bad - and quite reasonable VFM now the Pro models have taken the limelight.

 

It seems everything has compromises of one sort or another!

 


Edit - can't get more than 128Gb!

 

 

 

 

Apple sells this for such a use-case with a dedicated camera. There do exist male USB-A to female USB-C adaptors, but are you using a dedicated camera or your Note8 for shooting RAW?

 

You may find a portable hard drive with WiFi connectivity and iOS + Android app support solves the rest, although it would be a somewhat clumsy and overengineered workaround.

 

 

 

 

No, I use proper cameras. Previously Nikon D810 and D3s but in the process of shifting to two Sony Alpha 9 bodies or the Leica SL system. Both are 24Mp full frame systems.








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  Reply # 1905166 21-Nov-2017 11:47
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Senecio:

 

For your use case I'd suggest another option. A Microsoft Surface would be ideal and keep you from having to travel with a third device if you're prepared to let it replace your Macbook.

 

 


Have one. Hate it.

 

1) Poor battery life

 

2) Only one USB port (which delivers inadequate power to run a Lexar card reader)

 

3) Windows

 

4) Did I mention Windows?








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  Reply # 1905170 21-Nov-2017 11:53
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shk292:

 

For your use case of transferring image files from camera SD card to external HDD, a chromebook is the obvious choice.  Apple goes out of their way to make this sort of thing difficult and/or cost extra

 

If you don't need a high-res screen (based on optician advice, 1366x768 on a 10-11in screen should be OK) then there are some very good value options for chromebooks

 

 

 

 

The Samsung one is nice - and there is a low mileage one on TM at the moment for $500 - but not available new here and if I import, I have no idea what happens re warranty.

 

The Acer equivalent is available here - the C302. It's about $850.






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  Reply # 1905182 21-Nov-2017 12:12
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I'm quite a fan of Chromebooks. If you do go down this route, make sure that you check your chosen device can run the Google Play store apps - see this list.

 

My kids have got an Acer C738T each. I really like this form factor (fold the keyboard out of the way easily) if you want to use it in tablet mode. They are introductory level devices though with limited ram and hard drive, though you can add SD cards.




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  Reply # 1905227 21-Nov-2017 12:37
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The Samsung Chromebook Pro looks good and is on the list. 

 

Sadly not available here direct. Can order from Amazon and would be NZ$857 including delivery and taxes.

 


Edit - what is the warranty position on getting things fixed by Samsung here? Does the warranty work globally?






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Geektastic:

 

The downside of the iPad route is (a) another charger cable because they have not adopted USBC (or a dongle to convert, at least) and (b) AFAIK there is no way to connect an external drive to an iPad other than wifi which would be far too slow for transferring RAW files at the rate of hundreds per day I suspect. You cannot get more than 256Gb in that model and there's no micro SD expansion. Also no File Manager/Finder I think, which might not aid in the image transfer process.

 

I agree the device is not bad - and quite reasonable VFM now the Pro models have taken the limelight.

 

It seems everything has compromises of one sort or another!

 


Edit - can't get more than 128Gb!

 

 

 

 

I've not tried it, but think I have all the tools to try, using the camera connection kit to transfer raw files.  It's plugins up the jacksy of the ipad and allows insertion and importing of camera images via SD card.





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  Reply # 1905236 21-Nov-2017 12:51
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I also note that, despite being widely available in the US with 64Gb of SSD storage, the Asus 302 sold in NZ only has 32Gb...!






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