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#237910 23-Jun-2018 23:45
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Not really a mobile handset question but I cannot find a more appropriate section to post this in.


I'm contemplating getting a new tablet and am debating whether or not to get one with a sim card slot.


I've often thought having direct access to mobile data might be worthwhile/convenient. The more I have thought about it I have started to wonder that the sim card option may be unnecessary in my case. My reasoning is as follows;



  1. I don't need access to mobile data on my current tablet all that often.

  2. I can tether from my phone.

  3. A second data plan will cost extra even if it is just a data share type option, that money would be better spent on a better plan for my phone.


How may Geekzoners use a tablet with a sim card and are there any compelling reasons to have a tablet with a sim card?


I know the cost difference between a tablet with and without a sim slot isn't all that great, even if I never used the sim slot, but the money saved would buy a good case/keyboard.


Thoughts? Comments?





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  #2043017 24-Jun-2018 00:23
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I had same decision as you, went for one without sim,

For your same reasons, plus Netflix and on some other plans can download content on home wifi before taking it out of house.

I’m also not sure how text messaging works on tablet.

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  #2043020 24-Jun-2018 00:28
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Because you are talking ‘tablet’, I’m guessing you are not looking at iPad?

If you are looking at iPad, the non-SIM model does not have the GPS/location chip (Assisted GPS and GLONASS) that the SIM model has. Not sure if this is the same for non-Apple tablets.

I have the SIM model iPad and even though I very seldom have a SIM in it, it’s very handy to have the location feature and GPS directions etc. I would feel lost without that (no pun actually intended).




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  #2043023 24-Jun-2018 00:38
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Vodafone had something come up offering a free tablet sim recently. It was for on account only so all a bit meh to me.

 

I have a sim in mine. It has credit and I just use casual data when I need the odd thing, Or chuck on one of the packs. I rotate sims around devices so that I get a top up once a year on things if they are getting close to expiration. The car GPS trackers often just have another $20 chucked on each year because hard to get to. Other things I just put in my phone and top up and use for a month once a year.





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  #2043030 24-Jun-2018 00:56
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I have pretty much unlimited data available via my iPhone and if I want to use data on the iPad (I.e.no wifi available) I use the phone as a hotspot and tether the iPad to the phone. Still want the SIM model iPad though.




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  #2043040 24-Jun-2018 07:39
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eracode: Because you are talking ‘tablet’, I’m guessing you are not looking at iPad?

If you are looking at iPad, the non-SIM model does not have the GPS/location chip (Assisted GPS and GLONASS) that the SIM model has. Not sure if this is the same for non-Apple tablets.

I have the SIM model iPad and even though I very seldom have a SIM in it, it’s very handy to have the location feature and GPS directions etc. I would feel lost without that (no pun actually intended).


I was using the word tablet because I wanted the views of as many tablet users as possible not use the owners of one brand.

You are correct though I'm not looking to buy an iPad.

Thanks everyone for all the feedback.So far there's been nothing mentioned that justifies getting a SIM version.

Non Apple devices have GPS in the no SIM versions.




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  #2043070 24-Jun-2018 10:09
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When I bought my iPad2 7 years ago I did a lot of travel in Asia and most hotels back then did not have WiFi or if they did it was very poor so it was better for me to have a data SIM card. Two weeks ago I upgraded to the iPad6 with no SIM card as hotels in Asia have upped their game considerably as I just proved in Bali last week. So I say no and save your money.




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  #2043075 24-Jun-2018 10:15
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I have an Ipad sharing the data from my phone plan. I personally would not like to be without the sim option. You can't always get wifi when traveling around. We go camping a lot and find being able to browse the internet a bonus, plus it enables my partner to keep in touch with her business as we use an online booking system. I know we could do this on our phones, but like the bigger screen the Ipad offers.


 
 
 
 


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  #2043096 24-Jun-2018 11:13
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dukester:

 

I have an Ipad sharing the data from my phone plan. I personally would not like to be without the sim option. You can't always get wifi when traveling around. We go camping a lot and find being able to browse the internet a bonus, plus it enables my partner to keep in touch with her business as we use an online booking system. I know we could do this on our phones, but like the bigger screen the Ipad offers.

 

 

Why don't you tether to the phone?





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  #2043105 24-Jun-2018 11:33
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Data share SIMs don't always cost more - Vodafone offer these on all their Red+ plans and run promos at least 1-2x per year giving these away for free. 

 

 


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  #2043111 24-Jun-2018 12:05
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I used to think I needed tablets with SIM and bought that exclusively.

 

But turns out I didn't really use it all that much, and sharing the connection from the smartphone connection is so easy to use these days that I have ended up just buying the Wi-Fi versions and use tethering to the phone.


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  #2043117 24-Jun-2018 12:13
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Technofreak:

 

dukester:

 

I have an Ipad sharing the data from my phone plan. I personally would not like to be without the sim option. You can't always get wifi when traveling around. We go camping a lot and find being able to browse the internet a bonus, plus it enables my partner to keep in touch with her business as we use an online booking system. I know we could do this on our phones, but like the bigger screen the Ipad offers.

 

 

Why don't you tether to the phone?

 

 

Because I'm not always beside my partner to tether my phone. 


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  #2043126 24-Jun-2018 12:42
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I find it very handy. I've got a Nexus 7. And the Vodafone plan I'm on added the tablet sim for nothing, and I just allocate about 6-7gb to it each month and the rest on my phone. I have it in my glovebox, pull it out when I want to check something, when I'm at dinner (I travel for work) I use the tablet exclusively to browse the internet etc. Some of the motels/hotels I stay at can have brilliant wifi or terrible. When it's bad I generally use mobile data instead.

 

Yes I could tether, but then I'll have to charge my phone more often. If I didn't travel so much, I'd probably lean towards a non-sim version, but it's really handy. Though my phone and tablet are both Android, I don't have them set up identically. IE, I only have my main email account on my phone, versus multiples on the tablet, same with apps. I don't bother with certain apps on my phone as I prefer the bigger screen. And I don't want the distractions during the day on my phone, whereas the tablet stays out of mind during the day. 

 

Also, I don't know if the tablet has a bigger aerial or not, but it will often stick on higher speed connections longer than my phone. 


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FWIW, I used a tablet with SIMs in Australia and the USA … found that it was very handy at times when couldn't get laptop out and connected, e.g. hotel bookings, flight checks, etc, and once or twice for maps.

 

The cost of a local SIM was negligible, and even used the second SIM for TXT's on-the-fly (pre-smart 'phones).

 

 


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  #2043499 25-Jun-2018 12:38
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I always use tethering or, when available, free wifi.  Have never really missed having a SIM in a tablet.  I find that I (and my family) accumulate rollover data on our phones, so when we're away from home, that caters for tethering.  I usually use a threeUK SIM when travelling and although that's not meant to be used for tethering, I've never had a problem


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  #2043520 25-Jun-2018 13:11
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The first iPad we purchased we thought having a SIM would be critical, but even now we hardly use data (a friend lets us piggyback off his) - the occasional use for something like Pokémon Go for the kids.

My own iPad, bought from a GZ member, is 4G, and I’ve not bothered to even put in a SIM.

Given the ability to tether from a phone, plus that Android tablets without 4G have GPS chips, I really wouldn’t bother unless there’s a real clear justification.

Part of the problem is that, for occasional use, there’s really no decent data option that offers a bargain. For my mother’s iPad, I do 4 x $20 monthly top ups, which gives her 500MB free per month, then buy the 5GB pack using the accumulated $80 credit, ie $80 for 10 months. Rinse and repeat.

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