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Topic # 8835 1-Aug-2006 20:40
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Reply # 43086 1-Aug-2006 20:47
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You have yourself a blank post there....

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  Reply # 43118 2-Aug-2006 00:37
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Hard disk into IPod port on car CD PLayer?


iPod port? Is it just 2 x RCAs? What make/model stereo?









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  Reply # 43155 2-Aug-2006 16:03
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Test. Are we getting text now?



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  Reply # 43157 2-Aug-2006 16:07
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That looks better. What I was asking was...
I have a 40 Gig USB 2.0 external hard drive. I see that some new car CD players are advertising variously front panel USB input or IPOD input. Does anyone know whether I could thus use the HD as a source for MP3's on these stereos - assuming that I may have to power the HD separately.
(or has convergence not converged that far yet?)
Thanks

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  Reply # 43160 2-Aug-2006 16:39
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There are several car stereos I've seen including a DSE and JVC model (looked like the same product just $200 difference in the price) with front USB & SB connectors. These are compatible with any USB mass storage device so theoretically a USB external HDD should work - USB thumbdrives drives work great with them.

It would pay to check first however as some appliances these days with embedded Linux such as DVR's will only accept FAT or EXT3 format drives and not FAT32. FAT is limited to 2.1GB which means that a larger USB device don't work.




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  Reply # 43174 2-Aug-2006 20:55
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Thanks for that Steve. I was hoping to pick up a CD unit on TradeMe but I suspect most of the sellers would be unable to tell me whether their offering is FAT32 or not. Someone (on TradeMe) suggested yhat one of these devices would have difficulty building an index of MP3's on Gig. Any thoughts on that?

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  Reply # 43178 2-Aug-2006 23:09
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I work in a car audio shop...   (Eclipse's Top NZ Salesman!!  :-D  Just found that out)


Yes it has the chance of running a harddrive. 

A 3.5' drive will need a power source....  And if you have a 2.5' laptop in a case it will put the headunit to a real strain to supply power.  May work maybe not.


Question :   Why do only 'Cheaper' branded units only have USB Slots??


Answer :   Because they are Crap simply put.  Really bad s/n ratio.  (Bad Sound Quailty)   Bad capablitys.  etc etc



I think you will find your biggest problem is how long it is going to take for you to get to tracks later in the alphabet.   Do Not Under Estimate This Problem!!!    Its Huge!!   Even with rotory knobs.   Trust me it will kill the whole buzz of having gigs on tap.



On the postive note...  There is only one system that i can ever recomend for USB....   Its from Alpine.  Brand new product.  Its an addon to any late model AiNet Alpine headunit can use it.   This product is very new for New Zealand.  Its just that i have been given a 2006 Sales Reference Guide from the Alpine Rep i know this.  Not on Price lists.

Product model number is KCA-620M.   Works with DRM Media and any usb mass storage device.  Iriver etc.


Myself i am stuck on this problem.  I see no super fix for mass storage in a car.   Ipods Suck and still have seeking tracks problems thought the headunit ipod adp.  Playlists dont fully work i feel.   The best i can see is a carputer with a usb touch screen + a high end AUX input headunit.   This way one can choose what O.S they run on the carputer.  Some like WinXP w/ Winamp etc.  Others like the O.S made to be carputers.   Both ofer very diff things.


Food for thought.... 




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  Reply # 43179 2-Aug-2006 23:48
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Thanks for your big post Kezzainc.
This would be for a motorhome installation and I don't think providing a 5V supply for the HD will be a problem.
Don't understand your point about only Crap units providing a USB input. Surely the provision of USB does not require that the unit is crap. I wonder if the big brands have been caught napping by smaller manufacturers who can bring innovations to market quicker?!
For me the problem of the time delay waiting for, say, Uriah Heep to load will not be a problem. I won't be able to remember what I've got on 40 Gig anyway (since I'm getting on a bit!), so I'll probably just put it on random and skip if I'm not in the mood for a particular track or would this be a problem too in generating the next random selection?
BTW Congratulations on getting top dog salesman!

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  Reply # 43185 3-Aug-2006 06:49
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The craze a few years ago was for standalone MP3 units with their own controller and RCA outputs for hooking up to your existing stereo. I wonder why these never took off?

A Car PC is the ultimate solution, maybe for a motorhome you could look at this. A mini itx system with touch screen would cost around $1300 upwards for a basic unit and probably closer to $2000 for a good system and would give you the ultimate entretainment system for a mobile home, particularlu if you want to run Windows and then hook up a cellular modem and get mobile data as well.


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  Reply # 43269 3-Aug-2006 18:53
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For a motorhome that already has a 240V Converter, myself i would be on a small computer.  Maybe a laptop/IRiver with a AUX in headunit.

The biggest problem i see with putting a computer in a car is power supply.  Converting power or alternator power is really dirty.  Alot of noise picked up.   Good gear can get over that.

PSLog...  You say because its a moterhome 5volts doesnt matter?   Where in your motorhome you have a 5volt feed that you can put through USB?   I would love to know.



About the comment you made about me branding all USB units Crap...  Please tell me the good quality / "Branded" unit you have found.   And the data sheet you are looking from.   I would love to find a USB unit that works well apart from the Alpine KCA-620M. 


Quote from PSLog   "I wonder if the big brands have been caught napping by smaller manufacturers who can bring innovations to market quicker?"

Dude....  That is the wrong way round man.   Go research the Alpine research center and compare it to the those innovative small companys you talked about because i think you will find there is ony a hand full of manufacter's in the world.  Its all rebranding in a couple of factorys bud... Sony is 100% proof of this on all there products.  


I dont mean to come of sharp its just that i am a sucker for detail...  And feel everyone should see both sides.


Any others that have nice car audio @ GeekZone?


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  Reply # 43270 3-Aug-2006 19:34
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Kezzainc: PSLog... You say because its a moterhome 5volts doesnt matter? Where in your motorhome you have a 5volt feed that you can put through USB? I would love to know.


You can make them so that they run from normal battery for a lot less than $10 and its not hard either Tongue out

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  Reply # 43275 3-Aug-2006 20:47
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To handle upto 10Amps?



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  Reply # 43277 3-Aug-2006 20:57
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I wasn't going to bother but ...
I believe I can get 5V via a transformer from a 12 V supply.
It doesn't need to be via USB as the HD has a DC in.
It's existing supply is 2 amps - not 10.

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