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freitasm:surfisup1000: "Telecom announced today it has signed a wholesale services agreement with Ultrafast Fibre Ltd (UFF) to deliver fibre-based services to the central North Island region."
This is pretty much along the lines of what I understood so there was no reason to expect Tauranga to be excluded from the initial rollout.
Telecom said during the conference call (it's in my notes in previous post) that they are running trials with three other fibre providers.
So you can wait, or go with other provider. Up to you.
sbiddle:
Having a wholesale agreement and being able to deliver a service are two things entirely. I could probably write a 2000 word post explaining why, but quite frankly don't have time to explain the many parts to delivering an internet service and the differences in terms of provisioning, handover, monitoring and diagnostics between Chorus and the LFCs.
plambrechtsen:nickb800:underwatervrg: Well just found this on the updated Telecom Site -
http://www.telecom.co.nz/business/ourproducts/broadband/businessbroadband/ultrafibrebroadband/ & http://www.telecom.co.nz/internet/ultrabroadband/pricing/
Fibre does not currently support Static IP or Port 25 unblocking commonly used for such things as hosting your own website or email server, remote security web cameras, remote access to server content like email or files.
So that is a major deal breaker for 99% of businesses and schools wanting to move to UFB under Telecom...
Perhaps this is designed as a hook to compel these sorts of customers to upgrade to P2P fibre (rather than GPON)?
Both static ip and port 25 unblock will come in when throttle comes in. I should know as I am building the backend stack. There are a number of reasons why we didn't launch with it day one but believe me its being worked on and will be released once it is ready for primetime. There is a huge shift with UFB on the backend and it takes time to ensure everything is working as expected and scales to our total customer base. Watch this space but I won't comment as to when it is due to launch. But those that sign up will be given notice before it is turned on.
plambrechtsen:nickb800:underwatervrg: Well just found this on the updated Telecom Site -
http://www.telecom.co.nz/business/ourproducts/broadband/businessbroadband/ultrafibrebroadband/ & http://www.telecom.co.nz/internet/ultrabroadband/pricing/
Fibre does not currently support Static IP or Port 25 unblocking commonly used for such things as hosting your own website or email server, remote security web cameras, remote access to server content like email or files.
So that is a major deal breaker for 99% of businesses and schools wanting to move to UFB under Telecom...
Perhaps this is designed as a hook to compel these sorts of customers to upgrade to P2P fibre (rather than GPON)?
Both static ip and port 25 unblock will come in when throttle comes in. I should know as I am building the backend stack. There are a number of reasons why we didn't launch with it day one but believe me its being worked on and will be released once it is ready for primetime. There is a huge shift with UFB on the backend and it takes time to ensure everything is working as expected and scales to our total customer base. Watch this space but I won't comment as to when it is due to launch. But those that sign up will be given notice before it is turned on.
plambrechtsen:Behodar:joker97: Is it me or is there no vdsl?
The latter.
VDSL2 is still in development.. But this is all about UFB isn't it :)
SightUnseen
This is good to hear. The port 25 block is frustrating and inane, as it stops customers using anyone else's SMTP servers. We have clients contact us who have been using SMTP on port 25 to our servers fine (not many use non-SSL but still a few for their own reasons), then suddenly one day it stops. It appears some Telecom ranges have port 25 blocked, others don't.
joker97:plambrechtsen:Behodar:joker97: Is it me or is there no vdsl?
The latter.
VDSL2 is still in development.. But this is all about UFB isn't it :)
err ... yes ... but there are people who find no dates for UFB on the chorus website you know ... *sigh
nickb800: Thanks for the explanation Peter - understandable with uncapped connections - no-one wants fibre connections saturated if people are unwittingly part of a spam botnet
Anyway - shouldn't everyone be using ports 465 or 587 by now?
plambrechtsen:[snip]
I would like to point out that where I live (Miramar Wellington) I have both no VDSL2 coverage (about 600 meters outside the coverage area) and there is no sign anywhere for UFB apart from in Seatoun in 2016 (however I don't live there). So I hope the irony that I am building the main subscriber management stack for Telecom yet won't benefit from it for many years unless I move is not lost on the geekzoners here.
Talkiet:plambrechtsen:[snip]
I would like to point out that where I live (Miramar Wellington) I have both no VDSL2 coverage (about 600 meters outside the coverage area) and there is no sign anywhere for UFB apart from in Seatoun in 2016 (however I don't live there). So I hope the irony that I am building the main subscriber management stack for Telecom yet won't benefit from it for many years unless I move is not lost on the geekzoners here.
Damn, that sucks.
Have you at least got a Master Splitter installed to make sure you're getting the best possible speeds on ADSL2+?
Cheers - N
underwatervrg: Well just found this on the updated Telecom Site -
http://www.telecom.co.nz/business/ourproducts/broadband/businessbroadband/ultrafibrebroadband/ & http://www.telecom.co.nz/internet/ultrabroadband/pricing/
Fibre does not currently support Static IP or Port 25 unblocking commonly used for such things as hosting your own website or email server, remote security web cameras, remote access to server content like email or files.
So that is a major deal breaker for 99% of businesses and schools wanting to move to UFB under Telecom...
plambrechtsen:
Bahahahahah of course I do.... It was the first thing I put in when I joined Telecom and moved from TelstraClear cable back to ADSL. Attenuation of ~29db and have a connect rate of 14.8Mb.. So I can live with that.
sbiddle:SightUnseen
This is good to hear. The port 25 block is frustrating and inane, as it stops customers using anyone else's SMTP servers. We have clients contact us who have been using SMTP on port 25 to our servers fine (not many use non-SSL but still a few for their own reasons), then suddenly one day it stops. It appears some Telecom ranges have port 25 blocked, others don't.
My understanding the block is the default for every connection. If you want to use port 25 you fill in the form online and they will remove it for you.
sbiddle:surfisup1000:
"Telecom announced today it has signed a wholesale services agreement with Ultrafast Fibre Ltd (UFF) to deliver fibre-based services to the central North Island region."
Having a wholesale agreement and being able to deliver a service are two things entirely. I could probably write a 2000 word post explaining why, but quite frankly don't have time to explain the many parts to delivering an internet service and the differences in terms of provisioning, handover, monitoring and diagnostics between Chorus and the LFCs.
Telecom have also committed to using the voice ports on the ONT which also opens up many more technical issues, some of which I can't post in a public forum, but it's safe to say the changes from XML to TR-069 provisioning for these and inconsistancies between different brands of ONT is a roadblock for some at present.
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