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  Reply # 787654 27-Mar-2013 07:53
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Confirming the Telecom UFB chat is this Thursday 28th March, 1:30pm in our Geekzone chat.


I'm confused, are they going to announce the plans today as per a previous post? 




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  Reply # 787656 27-Mar-2013 07:55
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freitasm:
Confirming the Telecom UFB chat is this Thursday 28th March, 1:30pm in our Geekzone chat.


I'm confused, are they going to announce the plans today as per a previous post? 



There should be no confusion...

27th March: Plans announced
28th March: Available to consumers
28th March: Telecom UFB chat on Geekzone with Telecom manager

I will be in the conference call today at 12pm so will post the press release and whatever else transpires from the media launch here in the thread.






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  Reply # 787662 27-Mar-2013 08:26
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27th March: Plans announced
28th March: Available to consumers
28th March: Telecom UFB chat on Geekzone with Telecom manager



Thanks. Reason for my confusion (from stuff.co.nz website)..... 

"Telecom says it will start selling ultrafast broadband plans to residential customers on Thursday, joining smaller internet providers such as Orcon, CallPlus and Snap.
It will announce details of its plans and prices the same day."


So, according to "Stuff", plans will be announced on Thursday.   





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  Reply # 787667 27-Mar-2013 08:45
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You believe in what you read on Stuff? This is what I've got from Telecom:


... we’d like to invite you to an early preview of our new plans at Telecom Place hosted by Telecom CEO Retail, Chris Quin.

12pm (sharp) – 1pm

Wednesday 27th March, 2013





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  Reply # 787679 27-Mar-2013 09:22
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we’d like to invite you to an early preview of our new plans at Telecom Place hosted by Telecom CEO Retail, Chris Quin.

12pm (sharp) – 1pm

Wednesday 27th March, 2013


Will details be here on Geekzone between 12 & 1?



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  Reply # 787681 27-Mar-2013 09:23
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I will be posting in this thread. Any questions we can get them asked during the online chat with Telecom tomorrow.




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  Reply # 787703 27-Mar-2013 10:08
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Here a question for them

I'd like to know just when will UFB be available in Tamatea Napier so that we can take advantage of these new UFB plans from Telecom NZ

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Athlonite: Here a question for them

I'd like to know just when will UFB be available in Tamatea Napier so that we can take advantage of these new UFB plans from Telecom NZ


Telecom aren't building UFB. That question needs to be directed to the LFC for that area which is Chorus.

Plug your address in here:

http://www.chorus.co.nz/maps

It looks to me like parts of Napier have it already but that Tamatea, while in the final coverage zone, isn't planned before 2017.

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  Reply # 787708 27-Mar-2013 10:25
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richms: I would like to see 100/50, 1tb options, no forced spend on landline, realistic additional data blocks able to be purchased and free night times. So basically what snap have but from an ISP I can convince people to use as they have heard of them


That is reasonable. 


Reasonable, yes; realistic for Telecom, no.

IMHO the most significant part of the announcement will be the entry level plan pricing and details. Telecom's entry level plan is going to have a huge influence on UFB uptake, they are going to be pulling the greatest number of 'normal' people (not geeks with high usage) over to UFB if they target it right. The biggest factor for the average non-geek might not be large data caps, it could be unlimited national calling for example.

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  Reply # 787724 27-Mar-2013 11:04
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I agree, i'm most interested in the basic UFB plan as that is what most people will be using, and this will be the plan that drives uptake.

My guess:

I suspect we'll see Telecom sell a greater range of speeds on UFB than others are offering. Probably the base UFB plan will actually be slower than ADSL something like 10/2 Mbps with a range of speed "addons" to bring up the speed by paying more. Bigger plans will come with the bigger speeds already bundled.

The big difference between DSL and UFB that people will need to understand is on UFB speed can be directly advertised to the consumer in marketing material, whereas DSL was best effort because noone could be sure of the line speed until after the install.

What will be interesting to see is if Telecom offer a voice only UFB plan. If they can use the ATA on the ONT (which no other ISP has bothered to do) it will seriously lower their costs. I can imagine a free national calling plan as standard for this to get the price up to make it worthwhile.

Hopefully Telecom keep offering a full range of data plans. Why stop at 500mb? If people want to pay you more why not let them?



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  Reply # 787729 27-Mar-2013 11:07
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richms: I would like to see 100/50, 1tb options, no forced spend on landline, realistic additional data blocks able to be purchased and free night times. So basically what snap have but from an ISP I can convince people to use as they have heard of them


the 100/50 seems obvious as an upgrade option (obviously it costs more for the ISP so will need to be priced accordingly)
they already have 500GB option in their current plans, so would seem to make sense there too. 1TB would be nice, but huge overkill for the vast majority of people. 500GB probably covers 99% of the usage of the broadband market.

'no forced spend on landline'.  this depends on how you define it.  with UFB wholesale products a voice channel is included for no extra cost, so it would make sense for any ISP selling ufb to include a voice product, even if many customers dont care about it. i.e. its not costing them any more to have voice, so what is the point in removing it.

they also already have the choice between purchasing additional data at 50c/Gb on those larger plans,  or reducing your speed if you prefer,  so I wouldn;t be surprised to see that part come through too.

Free night times would be nice, but really if you have 500GB+ of 'anytime' data the amount of people who would value 'free night times' would be very very small, so I doubt they will do that.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the UFB plans just replicate exactly what their normal plans are at the same prices (other than an upgrade to get 100/50), and that would pretty much tick the boxes you want. It also keeps things much simpler rather than introducing new complexity and confusion with an entirely new set of plans.




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  Reply # 787762 27-Mar-2013 11:48
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Here's the press release:


Telecom makes significant progress tomorrow towards providing homes, small business and schools with next generation broadband when it launches ‘Ultra Fibre’.

Telecom has purposely tried to keep Ultra Fibre within reach of customers by creating simple, competitively priced plans based on a choice of two speeds, a range of generous data caps aligned with Telecom’s existing broadband plans, and national pricing. Telecom CEO Retail Chris Quin says UFB is a national roll-out so it’s appropriate to have national pricing.

“Our entry-level residential Ultra Fibre (Fibre 30 with 50GB) will be $95 per month based on a 12 month contract. We’re confident our pricing will appeal to customers given that they will enjoy the same amount of data, with all the added benefits of UFB, for the same or not much more than they pay for their existing broadband plan.”

The roll-out of UFB to 75% of New Zealanders by 2020 is a Government-led initiative with four UFB partners currently installing fibre optical cabling across the country. Telecom has been working alongside each partner ahead of its launch tomorrow and will be the first major telecommunications company to offer UFB at scale for homes, small businesses and schools.

Telecom Ultra Fibre will be available to customers in the Chorus footprint initially due to the fact they’re by far the largest UFB partner with nearly 70% of the UFB market. The existing Chorus footprint where Telecom Ultra Fibre will be available covers parts of Auckland as well as Blenheim, Dunedin, Hastings, Levin, Napier, Nelson, Palmerston North, Queenstown, Rotorua, Timaru and Wellington. Ashburton, Masterton, Taupo and Invercargill can expect Ultra Fibre within the next few months, with further regions in line with Chorus’ roll-out plans. In the meantime, Telecom is continuing to trial products with the three other UFB partners to refine shared customer processes and determine go live dates with them.

Mr Quin says the roll-out of UFB is an exciting time for New Zealand given the advancements it offers Kiwis in terms of how they communicate and connect, personally and professionally.

“We’re going through a major connectivity transformation and Telecom is here to assist customers navigate what is essentially an exciting new world with a data future. Over the past year, broadband data usage among our customers has increased by over 70%, placing greater demands on existing broadband and mobile technology and demonstrating the growing role data plays in our lives.

“UFB will provide even better and faster online experiences like smoother streaming for multiple users and enhanced business productivity through greater time efficiencies. It has the potential to transform learning – better supporting our next generation of digital natives – and future proofing us for technology we can’t even imagine yet.”

Telecom has spent the past year developing and internally trialling UFB with staff in their homes. The company is now at the point it feels comfortable launching a commercial product, Ultra Fibre, but Mr Quin stresses refinement will continue over the coming years as more and more customers make the transition to UFB.

“We’re here to support them make the transition from ADSL broadband to Ultra Fibre. It’s an entirely new journey for New Zealand - we anticipate a few bumps along the way - but we’re committed to making the ride as smooth as possible for our customers and will be working hard to get it right for them.”
Feedback from Telecom trials showed that even with multiple users on one connection, the overall internet experience was significantly better thanks to fibre. They were able to enjoy enhanced streaming media and their upload experience was more stable on fibre.

Telecom will assist customers through the Ultra Fibre set-up and installation process with research showing many Kiwis are still unsure about what is involved. The company has an online calculator to help people understand how much data they are currently using and which Ultra Fibre plan is best for them.

Once a customer has registered interest in Telecom Ultra Fibre, a pre-qualification process will be carried out to ensure the service can be provided. Homes, schools and small businesses will be eligible once fibre arrives in their street. For schools and most homes, installation is free but some homes (including those with overhead phone lines) may face an installation charge passed on from Chorus according to their specific circumstances.
Telecom recommends customers are on site during the installation process given work is required both inside and outside the premises. It also recommends customers allow up to a day for the installation team to carry out their work but adds it could take more or less time depending on the complexity of each installation.

For customers who take up Telecom Ultra Fibre, Telecom will retain their existing copper-based phone lines to service voice, monitored alarms, faxes, EFTPOS, SkyTV and medical alarms. Telecom is looking to introduce a voice over fibre product later this year with development well underway, which will open the opportunity to transition the other non-voice copper-based services to fibre.
Information on Telecom Ultra Fibre is available on Telecom’s website as well as at Telecom retail stores and business hubs.

A supporting marketing campaign is also underway to further raise customer understanding about Ultra Fibre and its benefits.





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  Reply # 787771 27-Mar-2013 11:54
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So they are only announcing one plan today? Bit weak from telecom, can get the same deal with Snap! for $75 as well numerous zero rated data sites...

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  Reply # 787773 27-Mar-2013 11:57
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jackfry: So they are only announcing one plan today? Bit weak from telecom, can get the same deal with Snap! for $75 as well numerous zero rated data sites...

thats the press release, not the full list of plans I assume.

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  Reply # 787775 27-Mar-2013 11:59
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freitasm: Here's the press release:


“Our entry-level residential Ultra Fibre (Fibre 30 with 50GB) will be $95 per month based on a 12 month contract. We’re confident our pricing will appeal to customers given that they will enjoy the same amount of data, with all the added benefits of UFB, for the same or not much more than they pay for their existing broadband plan.”



Ouch - thats not going to help the rollout much. I can't see your average Joe jumping over to UFB with those prices.

$20 more than their entry level DSL-based plan (but does come with 20Gig more data)
$10 more than their comparable DSL-based plan

$20 more than Orcon's entry level UFB plan

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