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  Reply # 60712 13-Feb-2007 21:09

the gnutella2 protocol (used by Limeware) already transfers files through HTTP, that idea's been done already sorry - and it diddn't work.

what needs to happen is that the telcos should stop chewing on the hand that feeds them and provide a true Internet service, that is one agnostic to what it carries. it's a reflection of the poor level of service we are given that we should have to jump hurdles like this to simply use our Internet connections.




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  Reply # 60726 13-Feb-2007 23:10
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weblordpepe: Thats why we make an encapsulating protocol that looks just like its browsing the web. I wonders how difficult it would be to kick start a peer to peer network based on HTTP and HTML. Afterall, the content inside files transferred by HTTP can be anything.
Maybe something which uses a tracking system with the actual protocol, but the actual transferring of data is HTTP with seemly random tags etc so filtering cant affect it?

Perhaps a bit off topic, but its a good thought.



Thanks guys - Ive learned something tonight. And weblordpepe, that is a bloody good idea.




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  Reply # 60967 16-Feb-2007 00:48
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Aww shucks, thankies Embarassed

Barf basically what I mean is - obviusly web traffic isn't slowwed down. There must be some way of creating a peer to peer network which transfers its data so that it would look to the ISP that you're downloading http://210.210.210.666/images/something.jpg so it would go at full speed.

Or even translating the binary data to text and putting it inside a HTML file. Like how MSN sends files using XML(text). I mean...where theres fullspeed there's a way to put videos/music through it.

As Bill Gates would say - 'Thats a software problem.'


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  Reply # 61101 17-Feb-2007 21:02
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I think that is true, that you could make it look like your downloading from a website, but then people have the problem of creating a distributed network that doesnt rely on index servers like napster used to.

It may be a little hard to integrate such a network with http protocols.




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  Reply # 61168 18-Feb-2007 23:50
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Hmm..

I wonder if the code & guts could be ripped out of one of those anonymous peer to peer darknet type networks. They are very interesting. From the outside you can't tell which IP is communicating with which IP, because the addressing scheme works on top of TCP/IP and is all encrypted & indexless and magical stuff.


Slow as hell, but if all you're after is indexing information for a HTTP link to a movie or part of a movie then you're on fire. ...I think?

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  Reply # 61187 19-Feb-2007 09:59
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weblordpepe: Hmm..

I wonder if the code & guts could be ripped out of one of those anonymous peer to peer darknet type networks. They are very interesting. From the outside you can't tell which IP is communicating with which IP, because the addressing scheme works on top of TCP/IP and is all encrypted & indexless and magical stuff.


Slow as hell, but if all you're after is indexing information for a HTTP link to a movie or part of a movie then you're on fire. ...I think?


If its slow, then it wont be used. If it isn't used, there is not much content and it wouldnt take off enough to be worth while.





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