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  Reply # 850691 8-Jul-2013 10:35
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timbosan:
The way I read this is different than the way I understood this to work.  If you assume a property already has decent wiring (e.g. CAT5 from the demarcation point, or new buildings with CAT5, etc) then isn't it simply a matter of installing a master splitter and making sure the wiring goes direct to there?

I thought the work was limited to the property (and obviously any changes at the exchange)?


Yeah, if there's already decent wiring in place, then as you say it's just a case of installing\patching in the master filter such that incoming pair goes straight into master filter without any unterminated stubs on that side, then DSL pair out of DSL "side" of splitter and straight to a dedicated jackpoint and everything else on premises connected to other pair on the master splitter.

Sadly houses with decent wiring seem to be the exception not the norm though. :)



EDIT:Other option is just to connect the incoming pair directly to single jackpoint for naked DSL provided nothing else is connected in any way (even other unused jackpoints with nothing plugged into them can have a huge impact on VDSL)

At the end of the day though, now that the installs are "free" you don't really need to worry much about any of this, chorus will look at it an decide the best course I guess.




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  Reply # 850703 8-Jul-2013 10:45
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Woah guys, you've kept me busy all morning! hah.

You can check if you're able to get VDSL on our website, if this fails it's quite quick to phone 0800800123, press 3, ask for "New Connection" then Broadband, the friendly team can assist you there. I should do some work now :)




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trig42: Michael checked mine and Att is over 17 :( His figures also showed my speed at 5mbps, which is really slow - I have had over 14 throughput, so will definitely get my internal wiring checked and filter installed before I go back to faults.


You will probably need a master filter if your attenuation.  Either go via BBHD 0800 225598 or get Coffeebaron/Cyril7 depending on if you live in AKL/WLG.


Or call 123 and try to submit a VDSL order, the Chorus pre-qual is done to the kerbside and doesn't include house wiring - then you will get a splitter installed anyway :)

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  Reply # 850712 8-Jul-2013 10:52
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michaelmurfy: Woah guys, you've kept me busy all morning! hah.

You can check if you're able to get VDSL on our website, if this fails it's quite quick to phone 0800800123, press 3, ask for "New Connection" then Broadband, the friendly team can assist you there. I should do some work now :)



Incidentally, given we are now into the 2nd half of 2013, does telecom have any plans to connect tauranga UFB?

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  Reply # 850722 8-Jul-2013 11:03
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michaelmurfy: Woah guys, you've kept me busy all morning! hah.

You can check if you're able to get VDSL on our website, if this fails it's quite quick to phone 0800800123, press 3, ask for "New Connection" then Broadband, the friendly team can assist you there. I should do some work now :)



Incidentally, given we are now into the 2nd half of 2013, does telecom have any plans to connect tauranga UFB?


I work very closely in the UFB space so I know it's being actively worked on.  I wouldn't personally commit on a date, as there are a number of non-trivial complexities with the other LFCs.

So when it's ready, I am sure we will let you know (or perhaps get you in for a pilot!)

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  Reply # 850755 8-Jul-2013 11:51
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I'm guessing Telecom is selling Naked VDSL only? If you've got an existing analog line you'll end up with two separate lines?

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  Reply # 850757 8-Jul-2013 11:54
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myfullflavour: I'm guessing Telecom is selling Naked VDSL only? If you've got an existing analog line you'll end up with two separate lines?


The opposite we only sell clothed VDSL

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  Reply # 850763 8-Jul-2013 12:04
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The press release:


FASTER BROADBAND NOW AVAILABLE TO ALMOST TWO-THIRDS OF
HOMES & BUSINESSES AS TELECOM LAUNCHES ULTRA VDSL

• 3-4 times faster average download speeds, and up to ten times faster upload1
• Competitively priced plans starting at $95/month nationally
• VDSL a ‘stepping-stone’ to fibre as UFB continues nationwide rollout

Faster internet speeds are now within reach of almost two-thirds of Kiwi homes and businesses, as the country’s largest broadband provider begins offering Ultra VDSL to customers from today.

VDSL (which stands for Very-high-bit-rate Digital Subscriber Line) offers the best internet experience currently available via traditional copper phone lines. Customers on Telecom Ultra VDSL will be able to download files and online content on average around three times as fast, and upload nearly 10 times as fast, as conventional (ADSL) broadband..

Telecom Ultra VDSL packages start at $95 per month for a 80GB plan, with the largest data plan – 500GB – costing customers $129 per month. These prices are comparable to Telecom’s Ultra Fibre products and at a slight premium to standard broadband. The company recently announced it had boosted all 50GB broadband plans to 80GB at no extra charge to enable a more generous data allowance for an increasingly data-hungry customer base.

Customers signing up for Telecom Ultra VDSL will have a technician visit their home or business premise to install a master splitter on their wiring and set-up a new VDSL capable modem – a relatively minor job which will usually take no more than an hour or two.

For home customers there will be an installation fee of $99. Business customers can access VDSL at the same price as standard Business ADSL plans with a $199 installation fee.

Chris Quin, Telecom Retail CEO believes that VDSL will give customers a taste of the significant benefits that fibre will bring as the government-led UFB rollout continues.

“Our customers tell us that they want faster, better broadband, and they want it now. While we are convinced that fibre will be the main driver of New Zealand’s future internet connectivity, fewer than one in ten Kiwis can get fibre today and its availability will not match that of current broadband infrastructure for three or four years yet, by current estimates. In contrast, around 60% of New Zealanders currently live and work in areas where VDSL is a great solution for better, faster broadband right now. VDSL can play a vital role in satisfying consumers’ immediate demands for a smoother, faster internet experience.”

As Telecom views VDSL as a stepping stone to fibre when it becomes available in a particular area, the company has committed to ensuring Ultra VDSL customers have the flexibility to upgrade their connection when making the decision to shift to Telecom Ultra Fibre in the future. Ultra Fibre’s even greater speed, capacity and consistency of service (as well as lower latency) than copper broadband means it will be the connection of choice for customers with a rapidly growing demand for data.

In addition, the Government’s ongoing Rural Broadband Initiative (RBI) is rolling out broadband infrastructure to many smaller towns and rural communities over the next few years. These communities, which are not part of the UFB rollout, will have access to VDSL through Telecom at the same time as they get broadband availability.

Mr Quin noted that VDSL availability was not as pervasive as conventional ADSL broadband, as users need to be within a one kilometre distance of their nearest telephone exchange or cabinet for the technology to work effectively.

“The products, services and experiences our customers love, such as streaming entertainment programming, sports viewing, social media and real-time business applications, are increasingly going online. We recognise our role in ushering in this new era of internet connectivity with the best online experiences possible via the best communications technology on offer,” Mr Quin commented.





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  Reply # 850786 8-Jul-2013 12:40
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ordered. Awesome. was going to get snap but was put off by the router cost (which is totally reasonable, just not wife-approvable).

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  Reply # 850790 8-Jul-2013 12:44
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myfullflavour: I'm guessing Telecom is selling Naked VDSL only? If you've got an existing analog line you'll end up with two separate lines?


The opposite we only sell clothed VDSL


Wow. Selling Clothed VDSL @ Naked VDSL prices! Shareholders will be stoked :)

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Yyrael:
myfullflavour: I'm guessing Telecom is selling Naked VDSL only? If you've got an existing analog line you'll end up with two separate lines?


The opposite we only sell clothed VDSL


Wow. Selling Clothed VDSL @ Naked VDSL prices! Shareholders will be stoked :)


Telecom pay chorus the same price for Naked as they do for Clothed - it's regulated.



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  Reply # 850797 8-Jul-2013 12:55
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I have a couple of questions as I'm very interested in VDSL and my area doesn't even have a date scheduled for UFB:

  1. I am currently on a 12 month homeline+adsl2 contract with Telecom, would I get penalised for getting VSDL on a new contract or would it just extend it another 12 months?
  2. I currently get sync speeds of ~13mbps down and I live in Stokes Valley, is there any way to tell what sort of speed I'd get on VSDL?
  3. Do I need to get a master splitter installed at the same time and how much would that cost?
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  Reply # 850798 8-Jul-2013 12:56
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Right, wasn't aware that Telecom operated under different rules (wholesale pricing) to the other ISPs.

Todays announcement makes Snap's old pricing still look pretty good!

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  Reply # 850808 8-Jul-2013 13:03
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myfullflavour:
Yyrael:
myfullflavour: I'm guessing Telecom is selling Naked VDSL only? If you've got an existing analog line you'll end up with two separate lines?


The opposite we only sell clothed VDSL


Wow. Selling Clothed VDSL @ Naked VDSL prices! Shareholders will be stoked :)


Telecom pay chorus the same price for Naked as they do for Clothed - it's regulated.




VDSL2 is a commercial offering (rather than regulated like ADSL/ADSL2+) but is delivered with virtually identical terms to the regulated UBA offering.

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  Reply # 850812 8-Jul-2013 13:07
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myfullflavour: Right, wasn't aware that Telecom operated under different rules (wholesale pricing) to the other ISPs.

Todays announcement makes Snap's old pricing still look pretty good!


We operate under the same rules as any other ISP, from what I recall you wholesale through Maxnet. This is not the thread to discuss wholesale prices.




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