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  Reply # 65958 2-Apr-2007 11:19
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tonyhughes: But they didnt even manage to say G.P.S. - they came up with 'global position network'. Joe Bloggs who doesnt know about the technology now has a VERY distorted view about what is happening.


Yeeesss... I explained why this happens. The subs don't like acronyms (and there's a good reason for that). You don't see "ISP" in the Herald for that reason, but "Internet provider" instead. CDMA and other mobile telephony acronyms are a major headache for the subs who are itching to spell them all out, but can't.

Agreed though that if you're going to spell things out, you need to get it right. GPN is a funky one.

Surely these guys are not so uppity that they cant peer review articles and point out factual errors (im sure SOMEONE on staff would see that thats an error).

MSM rides again.


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  Reply # 65960 2-Apr-2007 11:29
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tonyhughes: Surely these guys are not so uppity that they cant peer review articles and point out factual errors (im sure SOMEONE on staff would see that thats an error).

MSM rides again.

juha: I hear the sound of stones hitting the glass in your house... :)

Is that what that constant noise is? :)

I have found the problem - we are not reading PREMIUM content on the Herald site. Just the slops.... maybe premium = factual and you have to pay for it. Without a subscription, you get the made up and unchecked stuff...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/promotion/story.cfm?c_id=500827&objectid=10344771







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  Reply # 65971 2-Apr-2007 12:47
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freitasm: About the 0274... It's incredible how people quote their phone number as 0274 and this seems to be the rule for people to identify Telecom, instead of 027 only. You see this a lot in service vans around the country.

It would seem these are the people who moved from 025 contract (6 numbers) to 027, they all got a 4 added to the front of their number and decided they were on 0274 {old number}. It's amazing how many clients have supplied us with mobile numbers it the format (0274) xxx-xxx then complain when they are changed to (027) 4xx-xxxxx. One lady told me Telecom mobile was 0274 and I had no idea what I was talking about because the nice person at the Telecom shop had told her she now had an 0274 number.

Incompetence all around.

Back on topic...

You have to remember this is the very talented writer who last year gave us Wireless CDMA and then broadband over a Skype phone... What will we read next? Geekzone buying EcoNet?

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  Reply # 65989 2-Apr-2007 14:59
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bradstewart: It would seem these are the people who moved from 025 contract (6 numbers) to 027, they all got a 4 added to the front of their number and decided they were on 0274 {old number}.


Well of course that's how Telecom themselves marketed the change, I quite clearly remember getting info that told me my number hadn't changed, just the prefix from 025 to 0274 - so I guess it's hardly surprising that Joe/Jane customer think that's what happened.

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  Reply # 65990 2-Apr-2007 15:58
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Heres what happened (in general - this was not hard and fast rules, and customers move their numbers all the time between pre and post paid etc etc)

New connections to Telecom went on 0272
Upgrades from 025 network went on 0274
021/029 customers went on 0275
Some data connections went on 0276
Some prepaid connections went on 0273/0276
0271 0277 0278 0279 all unused as far as I am aware

To get 0275 the dealer had to confirm that the rest of the number matched the customers old 021/029 to some degree (though I have seen this rule broken so often its not funny). Any customer could reserve any unused 0272/0274, I think in the beginning of the 0273/0276 days there was resistance againts reserving numbers in those ranges, but this may have eased now.

Of course it is all just for organisational purposes (that I am aware of), and its certainly all the same physical network. There is no difference in towers, networks, bills, coverage, signal, services or anything else.









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  Reply # 65992 2-Apr-2007 16:05
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Hmm every 027 prepaid number I've had (6 in 4 years) has been 0274 and my contract ones have been 0273

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  Reply # 66002 2-Apr-2007 18:29
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mclayma:
sbiddle: This Herald article is just as bad

"The change, introduced yesterday and brought about by a Government-driven number portability initiative, will allow, for example, a Vodafone 021 customer to switch to the Telecom 0274 network and keep their 021 number."

I didn't realise it was the Telecom 0274 network..



Gutted I have an 0272 number does that mean im not on telecom lol :-)


Lots of people call it their 0274 phone since telecom made a big thing about the 025 changing to 0274 being the only change, I have seen it countless times on vans and stuff signwritten as 0274-9xx-xxx




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  Reply # 66036 2-Apr-2007 22:44
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mclayma: Quote from the heralds effort for today.....lol :-)


But investors believe Telecom gave a strong signal at an investment day in Sydney last month that it was looking to move from its CDMA network to global positioning network.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/3/story.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10432052


So I wonder how people will make calls on GPS considering its Global Positioning System. Great work Jenny good to see that the story was fact checked.


You know those movies and TV programs like Borat and The Office etc, where you find yourself cringing and feeling really embarassed for the people involved?? That's how i feel reading any of Jenny Keown's articles - hugely embarassed for her.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/story.cfm?c_id=93&objectid=10430325
 "Naked DSL is a phone service delivered via broadband" - there goes another one...

You know, one of these days, she is going to report something so completely wrong it'll cause damage to someone or someone's business


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  Reply # 66037 2-Apr-2007 22:48
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Does Jenny Keown actually exist or is it just a made up byline as I suspect Xtra's Max Newman is?



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  Reply # 66052 3-Apr-2007 08:48
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Bung: Does Jenny Keown actually exist or is it just a made up byline as I suspect Xtra's Max Newman is?


Could well be made up I wondered why Ive never had a response to my emails :-)

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Bung: Does Jenny Keown actually exist or is it just a made up byline as I suspect Xtra's Max Newman is?


One day soon someone is going to appear and tell us we're all on Candid Camera. She's beyond a joke.




 

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  Reply # 66361 4-Apr-2007 22:11
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I feel the need to donate my services as a editor to Jenny so her readers dont look like idiots at the watercooler.
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  Reply # 66370 4-Apr-2007 22:36
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raytaylor: I feel the need to donate my services as a editor to Jenny so her readers dont look like idiots at the watercooler.
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Great idea :-)



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  Reply # 66371 4-Apr-2007 22:39
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By the way team does the Herald know GZ exists or just us learned ones ha ha

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  Reply # 66384 4-Apr-2007 23:56
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mclayma: By the way team does the Herald know GZ exists or just us learned ones ha ha


Probably not but I bet one of their young I.T geniuses in the photocopy room does, but they in the wrong job position or havnt past uni yet.




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