tardtasticx:

johnr:

richms: Hmm, it says 4g on the faux leather back so its a bit crap if it isnt actually capable of it.

Not at all handset does support 4G once software updated on handset

Just out of curiosity, what would happen if he popped Vodafone SIM in the handset? Would 4G options show up then or would it still require telecom to unlock that capability?

NikT:

tardtasticx:

johnr:

richms: Hmm, it says 4g on the faux leather back so its a bit crap if it isnt actually capable of it.

Not at all handset does support 4G once software updated on handset

Just out of curiosity, what would happen if he popped Vodafone SIM in the handset? Would 4G options show up then or would it still require telecom to unlock that capability?

It depends on how it has been implemented, but knowing Samsung, it'll likely be changing configuration on boot as determined by the MCC & MNC of the SIM card inserted - so it's likely that 4G would be an option with a Vodafone SIM card in a Telecom-branded Note 3 handset. Haven't confirmed that myself, but that should be the case unless 4G has been locked down entirely (It is in the Lumias, Samsung's solution is a little more robust).

hamish225:

NikT:

tardtasticx:

johnr:

richms: Hmm, it says 4g on the faux leather back so its a bit crap if it isnt actually capable of it.

Not at all handset does support 4G once software updated on handset

Just out of curiosity, what would happen if he popped Vodafone SIM in the handset? Would 4G options show up then or would it still require telecom to unlock that capability?

It depends on how it has been implemented, but knowing Samsung, it'll likely be changing configuration on boot as determined by the MCC & MNC of the SIM card inserted - so it's likely that 4G would be an option with a Vodafone SIM card in a Telecom-branded Note 3 handset. Haven't confirmed that myself, but that should be the case unless 4G has been locked down entirely (It is in the Lumias, Samsung's solution is a little more robust).

this might sound like a bit of a dumb question, but why do they even bother locking the 4G in the first place?

hamish225:

NikT:

tardtasticx:

johnr:

richms: Hmm, it says 4g on the faux leather back so its a bit crap if it isnt actually capable of it.

Not at all handset does support 4G once software updated on handset

Just out of curiosity, what would happen if he popped Vodafone SIM in the handset? Would 4G options show up then or would it still require telecom to unlock that capability?

It depends on how it has been implemented, but knowing Samsung, it'll likely be changing configuration on boot as determined by the MCC & MNC of the SIM card inserted - so it's likely that 4G would be an option with a Vodafone SIM card in a Telecom-branded Note 3 handset. Haven't confirmed that myself, but that should be the case unless 4G has been locked down entirely (It is in the Lumias, Samsung's solution is a little more robust).

this might sound like a bit of a dumb question, but why do they even bother locking the 4G in the first place?

johnr:

hamish225:

NikT:

tardtasticx:

johnr:

richms: Hmm, it says 4g on the faux leather back so its a bit crap if it isnt actually capable of it.

Not at all handset does support 4G once software updated on handset

Just out of curiosity, what would happen if he popped Vodafone SIM in the handset? Would 4G options show up then or would it still require telecom to unlock that capability?

It depends on how it has been implemented, but knowing Samsung, it'll likely be changing configuration on boot as determined by the MCC & MNC of the SIM card inserted - so it's likely that 4G would be an option with a Vodafone SIM card in a Telecom-branded Note 3 handset. Haven't confirmed that myself, but that should be the case unless 4G has been locked down entirely (It is in the Lumias, Samsung's solution is a little more robust).

this might sound like a bit of a dumb question, but why do they even bother locking the 4G in the first place?

The handset will not allow locking to 4G only this would be just plain silly

hamish225:

I dont mean locking TO 4G, I mean why would they lock devices so they cannot use 4G until the manufacturer or the carrier says so?

NikT:

hamish225:

I dont mean locking TO 4G, I mean why would they lock devices so they cannot use 4G until the manufacturer or the carrier says so?

Prevent user confusion & unnecessary battery drain, most likely. No advantage to having it enabled before the network is ready (Especially so if it does work when a SIM from a network the handset recognises as 4G-capable is inserted). Pushing the update to enable 4G could also allow for other things such as network-optimised radio/baseband tweaks to make sure users have a good experience.

lxsw20: Everytime I ring to get a SIM swap done they say up to 4 hours, 90% of the time it happens in about 2 mins.

s.joseph: My telecom Xperia Z1 has the imei on the pre-register site still saying its not 4g compatible. Anyone else still having this issue?

freitasm: And this landed in my mailbox today to test it around town: