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  Reply # 915020 14-Oct-2013 20:22
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hamish225: so today in class we were learning about wifi and the teacher encouraged us to look for applications that we could use to hack into peoples WiFi with.

i found an app on the windows phone store that has all the default thompson passwords, i used it to get onto both of my neighbors networks that use thompson routers.

should telecom be recalling these routers?

PS: i dont intend to steal their bandwidth, just purely tried for educational purposes and i deleted the networks from my phone after having connected.


Congratulations.. you just broke the law.

- Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years who intentionally accesses, directly or indirectly, any computer system without authorisation, knowing that he or she is not authorised to access that computer system, or being reckless as to whether or not he or she is authorised to access that computer system.

And the Teacher has broken the law as well as they supplied the information to you regarding it.

-Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years who invites any other person to acquire from him or her, or offers or exposes for sale or supply to any other person, or agrees to sell or supply or sells or supplies to any other person, or has in his or her possession for the purpose of sale or supply to any other person, any software or other information that would enable another person to access a computer system without authorisation—


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  Reply # 915049 14-Oct-2013 21:14
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Netcomm wireless had a default password which obviously still many people use with the default ssid. I was supplied this password for access somewhere where I was staying, and since then, when I randomly stumble into a netcomm wireless range, I get free Internet. Totally unintentionally.

 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 915127 15-Oct-2013 00:12
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LennonNZ:
hamish225: so today in class we were learning about wifi and the teacher encouraged us to look for applications that we could use to hack into peoples WiFi with.

i found an app on the windows phone store that has all the default thompson passwords, i used it to get onto both of my neighbors networks that use thompson routers.

should telecom be recalling these routers?

PS: i dont intend to steal their bandwidth, just purely tried for educational purposes and i deleted the networks from my phone after having connected.


Congratulations.. you just broke the law.

- Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years who intentionally accesses, directly or indirectly, any computer system without authorisation, knowing that he or she is not authorised to access that computer system, or being reckless as to whether or not he or she is authorised to access that computer system.

And the Teacher has broken the law as well as they supplied the information to you regarding it.

-Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years who invites any other person to acquire from him or her, or offers or exposes for sale or supply to any other person, or agrees to sell or supply or sells or supplies to any other person, or has in his or her possession for the purpose of sale or supply to any other person, any software or other information that would enable another person to access a computer system without authorisation—



im sorry i didnt come here for this.

i made this post to hopefully make people aware of this problem, i dont appreciate threats of imprisonment for doing a public service.





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  Reply # 915130 15-Oct-2013 00:54
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" i dont intend to steal their bandwidth, just purely tried for educational purposes and i deleted the networks from my phone after having connected."

What it comes down to is yes you did access someone else's network without their permission on purpose. Many see this as the same as trespassing someone else's property (and in the law as well)

Would you mind someone you don't know walking into your house.. sitting down and watching your TV?

I am 100% sure no one minded you letting people know of this problem. It is as bad as Dlink's backdoor password but using the information to get into other people's network is just bad.

As well telling you the pitfalls of Wifi your teacher should have explained computer ethics first. Maybe you can talk to your teacher regarding this.

Regarding "threats of imprisonment".. I don't make the law. I don't uphold the law, I just made you aware of the Law.



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  Reply # 915131 15-Oct-2013 01:44
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No, I think that was rude and uncalled for. Have I done something to you personally or did you just get up on the wrong side of the bed?





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hamish225: No, I think that was rude and uncalled for. Have I done something to you personally or did you just get up on the wrong side of the bed?


I don't know you.. I have nothing against you.. I don't have any grudges against anyone.

Calm down. I was just making you aware of (that you might not have known) that what you did may not be right. 

There may have been better ways of doing your tests for "educational purposes" 

I'm going to leave it as that but I suggest as I said before that you talk to your teacher regarding it all and they may have some insights on it all.





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  Reply # 915195 15-Oct-2013 08:47
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hamish225: No, I think that was rude and uncalled for. Have I done something to you personally or did you just get up on the wrong side of the bed?


You've taken it the wrong way. You were given very good and very specific advice that what you were doing could land you in a lot of trouble. Accept it for what it is, good advice.

LennonNZ is right, your teacher should have at the very least discussed the consequences of doing this.

 

 




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