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  # 989325 17-Feb-2014 23:12
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Hmmm, probably just go with VDSL then. This isn't my place and I'm not sure the landlord would be happy with all that going on in his house. Will see what happens with VDSL in the first instance - cheers anyway.

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  # 989326 17-Feb-2014 23:14
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Well how are you getting internet around the house at this stage? Fibre being installed already will help with future tenantability so its pretty much a no brainer, so unless you are unlucky enough to have one of the selfish older landlord types you should be fine if you discuss it with them or the property manager if they employ one.



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  # 989389 18-Feb-2014 06:00
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Wireless, which works pretty well.

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  # 989407 18-Feb-2014 06:52
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quickymart: Cool...cheers, I'll probably sell that modem and use my Netcomm one instead :)

Be careful - many NZ ISPs retain ownership of their modems - the hire is included in the monthly fee.

Telecom you own the modem (which is actually quite decent) but you would be locked into a 12 month contract typically.

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  # 992891 23-Feb-2014 17:15
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007Snoopy: Hi :)

Some interesting points in this convo...

I recently upgraded from ADSL2+ to VDSL2.  I have gotten a speed increase, so not complaining (too) loudly, but I do have some queries...

Master Splitter... With the ADSL connection the (Chorus) tech installed the filter in the home office, this is some 10m from the t/com entry point and runs on 'old' cream coloured phone cable, second the entry point is some 50m from the grey t/com post, and is connected by an above ground grease filled black twin pair cable this has been cut in at least ONE place and repaired by twisting and taping (I know cos I was the idiot that cut it with the weedwhacker ;) ) as far as I'm aware the t/com cabinet is approx 400m in the other direction (in relation to the grey post)

So, no master filter at ONT(?)
Running: Faxability, VDSL and Phoneline this is the screenie (lightshot) of the modem connection details using the Telecom supplied Huawei HG630b.

1. Can I get better stats using a different modem, and which one to get?
2. Should I insist/request Telecom to fix the cable from grey post - house under the wiring maintenance agreement?
3. Master filter installed at ONT (supply my own cat5e from there to office?)
4. query possibility of moving to the grey post on the other end of property (some 60m closer to the cabinet)

5. just suck it up and accept this is what I have so this is what I get :(

I have a website I maintain a constant connection too (okay it's a MMO) which keeps dissconnecting, is this more likely due to 'throughput' over connection speed or noisy line or some other technical sounding thing I cannot do much about.

Oh, and just for giggles: My external HDD connects to the USB port of the Huawei, but the files or HDD are not visible to windows media player/ps3/anything else... so any suggestions on that would be just outstanding :) (HDD is USB 2.0 500Gb in externally powered enclosure full size)


Please start a new thread, as this seems unrelated to the OP.

Probably need to get that taped join repaired though - won't be doing any good at all at VDSL frequencies.

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  # 992924 23-Feb-2014 17:40
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Thanks, following advice I created a new thread (i was tagging along on the VDSL install topic rather than content of the posts)

Yes ETP is what I was talking about, and its the feed from that to the DP that used to run in an orange conduit (inside the boundary - no easement) that due to age and exposure has disintegrated, allowing the cable to lie in the grass (then cut).

Regarding the DP, our property is long enough that we have 2 DP's streetside, we just happen to be connected to the one further from the cabinet (and office)



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  # 1025246 14-Apr-2014 23:10
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Update: I ordered VDSL tonight :) what's the turnaround time for an install on the North Shore? I requested a Saturday installation.

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  # 1028169 20-Apr-2014 15:29
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Being installed this Saturday :)
Once installed, the speed is not faster that right?

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  # 1028232 20-Apr-2014 16:47
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quickymart: Once installed, the speed is not faster that right?

If you have a good connection, your speed should be faster immediately, especially your upload speed.
There is then a 10-day VDSL "training period", and your speed may improve further during/after this.


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  # 1028280 20-Apr-2014 18:00
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The speeds should be faster (than ADSL) more or less immediately.  Chorus will adjust the line to the right optimisation between speed and stability for about a week after the install, so you may notice the speeds changing a bit during that week.

My views are my own, and may not necessarily represent those of my employer.

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  # 1028351 20-Apr-2014 21:32
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quickymart: Being installed this Saturday :)
Once installed, the speed is not faster that right?

yes it should be your ISP needs to put you on a VDSL profile

ive noticed a few threads where the ISP has dropped the ball so make sure it gets done

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  # 1028392 20-Apr-2014 22:23
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Roger that, will keep an eye on it post-installation.

Any point posting before/after Speedtest results (I guess to Telecom's server, since I'm with Xtra)?

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  # 1028459 21-Apr-2014 08:26
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its a good thing to keep a record of

along with modem stats, ie attenuation.

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  # 1030912 25-Apr-2014 07:09
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VDSL install tomorrow :)

For the record, here's my line stats from my router:

Line Mode     ADSL2+      Line State     Show Time  
Line Power State     L0      Line Up Time     00:13:08:41
Line Coding     Trellis On      Line Up Count     2

Statistics     Downstream     Upstream
Line Rate     18743 Kbps     1208 Kbps
Attainable Line Rate     21764 Kbps     1296 Kbps
Noise Margin     12.1 dB     13.0 dB
Line Attenuation     3.5 dB     1.6 dB
Output Power     0.0 dBm     12.8 dBm

Telecom's speedtest reports 16MB/s download, 0.99MB/s upload, latency 9ms.

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