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  Reply # 1034264 30-Apr-2014 20:45
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There is a few 2600 sites out there too. I know Vodafone has a few live on this frequency in the CBD. I think there was report of a Telecom site in Rotorua with a 2600 license, though not sure if it's live.




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joker97: Bummer - my $1000 phone doesn't do 700MHz ...


i wonder if telecom knew the iphone 5s they were selling would be incompatible with this?

Might have been nice to have been told. 

 
 
 
 


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surfisup1000: i wonder if telecom knew the iphone 5s they were selling would be incompatible with this?

I'd imagine that Telecom knew; the specs don't list band 28 for any model.

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joker97: Bummer - my $1000 phone doesn't do 700MHz ...


i wonder if telecom knew the iphone 5s they were selling would be incompatible with this?

Might have been nice to have been told. 


Of course they knew. Not a single phone in the world up until the recent launch of the M8 a few weeks ago supported the APT band.

Did you assume it would work? If so I guess it's a clear case of not doing any research on a product before buying.



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  Reply # 1034277 30-Apr-2014 21:02
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And I wonder how many people will find their parallel import M8's will be the wrong variant too for 700 APT





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eh variant of 700MHz?

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Variant of M8; ie. one that doesn't support band 28.

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  Reply # 1034302 30-Apr-2014 21:36
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joker97: eh variant of 700MHz?

Some will be the US 700 band plan.
Some may not have any 700 band at all.
Some wont do 2600 band.





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sbiddle:
surfisup1000:
joker97: Bummer - my $1000 phone doesn't do 700MHz ...


i wonder if telecom knew the iphone 5s they were selling would be incompatible with this?

Might have been nice to have been told. 


Of course they knew. Not a single phone in the world up until the recent launch of the M8 a few weeks ago supported the APT band.

Did you assume it would work? If so I guess it's a clear case of not doing any research on a product before buying.




It is annoying that telecom knew they were selling phones that would soon be obsolete without informing their customers. 

Not everyone is an expert like yourself or follow a companies network plans. 

Personally, I may have delayed purchased my iphone 5s if I had known this.  But, thats why telecom didn't want to say right?

It goes back to the days under Teresa Gattung, where obfuscation and confusion were valuable tools. 

Although, if this network is several years away then that would be OK. It depends on the timing. 

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It was the same with 3g, where VF pushed out the 2100 mhz, later phones would be able to take advantage of 900mhz 3g, particularly outside the cities.

Either way, great that the locals are getting into the 700 band they were keen on bidding on, bring on the coverage and mobiles in the coming years.

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surfisup1000: It is annoying that telecom knew they were selling phones that would soon be obsolete without informing their customers.


Just because a device doesn't support one specific band does not make it obsolete.

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why would vodafone use the US band plan in new zealand?

and if they can just decide to use that one why doesnt telecom and 2degrees use it too, there would be more devices supported, right?





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Why would PBTech sell me a new i7 computer when next month the super i7000 will be out and my i7 will be obsolete!




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Perhaps a dumb question, but is it possible that this new spectrum will open possibilities for higher mobile data caps? The commonly quoted reason for heavy limits on mobile data is lack of frequency, so...





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surfisup1000:
sbiddle:
surfisup1000:
joker97: Bummer - my $1000 phone doesn't do 700MHz ...


i wonder if telecom knew the iphone 5s they were selling would be incompatible with this?

Might have been nice to have been told. 


Of course they knew. Not a single phone in the world up until the recent launch of the M8 a few weeks ago supported the APT band.

Did you assume it would work? If so I guess it's a clear case of not doing any research on a product before buying.




It is annoying that telecom knew they were selling phones that would soon be obsolete without informing their customers. 

Not everyone is an expert like yourself or follow a companies network plans. 

Personally, I may have delayed purchased my iphone 5s if I had known this.  But, thats why telecom didn't want to say right?

It goes back to the days under Teresa Gattung, where obfuscation and confusion were valuable tools. 

Although, if this network is several years away then that would be OK. It depends on the timing. 

As per above, it isn't obsolete. Just because your device doesn't support a future technology it doesn't make it any less capable of doing what it was intended to do. Your device will continue to operate on the 4G coverage that continues to be deployed in cities and towns across the country.

Also as per above, there was literally nothing that supported this up until recently, and there are many many countries who will be deploying this band plan over the coming years who are in the exact same situation. There is no conspiracy, confusion or obfuscation about them not telling people in order to sell more phones. 

To be honest, blaming and or complaining to telecom about this makes you look foolish. Buyers remorse for something that might not have a future feature or technology that currently isn't available anywhere is no ones fault but your own. It's highly likely that the majority of telecom's sales and support staff do not even know any detail about this spectrum and its particulars either, until recent developments such as this announcement and the associated internal briefing that probably occured at the same time.

Regardless of this though, a usable network is ages away. Not only do they have to do trials, but licencing of the spectrum needs to be finalized, then extensive testing of the network, and then actual building out the coverage. It's quite a way off.

hamish225: why would vodafone use the US band plan in new zealand?

and if they can just decide to use that one why doesnt telecom and 2degrees use it too, there would be more devices supported, right?

Because its still in the 700mhz range, and therefore you can still look at its RF characteristics in relation to NZ landscape etc. It'll behave similar, however not identical.

Can anyone confirmed Vodafone actually used APT700 and that Telecom's claim to be the first to test it out is false?

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