Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3 | 4
5114 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2140

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1034264 30-Apr-2014 20:45
One person supports this post
Send private message

There is a few 2600 sites out there too. I know Vodafone has a few live on this frequency in the CBD. I think there was report of a Telecom site in Rotorua with a 2600 license, though not sure if it's live.




Chorus has spent $1.4 billion on making their xDSL broadband network faster. If your still stuck on ADSL or VDSL, why not spend from $150 on a master filter install to make sure you are getting the most out of your connection?
I install - Naked DSL, DSL Master Splitters, VoIP, data cabling and general computer support for home and small business.
Rural Broadband RBI installer for Ultimate Broadband and Full Flavour

 

Need help in Auckland, Waikato or BoP? Click my email button, or email me direct: [my user name] at geekzonemail dot com


3363 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1004


  Reply # 1034265 30-Apr-2014 20:48
Send private message

joker97: Bummer - my $1000 phone doesn't do 700MHz ...


i wonder if telecom knew the iphone 5s they were selling would be incompatible with this?

Might have been nice to have been told. 

 
 
 
 


6052 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 942

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1034270 30-Apr-2014 20:53
2 people support this post
Send private message

surfisup1000: i wonder if telecom knew the iphone 5s they were selling would be incompatible with this?

I'd imagine that Telecom knew; the specs don't list band 28 for any model.

25972 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5650

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1034273 30-Apr-2014 20:59
5 people support this post
Send private message

surfisup1000:
joker97: Bummer - my $1000 phone doesn't do 700MHz ...


i wonder if telecom knew the iphone 5s they were selling would be incompatible with this?

Might have been nice to have been told. 


Of course they knew. Not a single phone in the world up until the recent launch of the M8 a few weeks ago supported the APT band.

Did you assume it would work? If so I guess it's a clear case of not doing any research on a product before buying.



5114 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2140

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1034277 30-Apr-2014 21:02
2 people support this post
Send private message

And I wonder how many people will find their parallel import M8's will be the wrong variant too for 700 APT





Chorus has spent $1.4 billion on making their xDSL broadband network faster. If your still stuck on ADSL or VDSL, why not spend from $150 on a master filter install to make sure you are getting the most out of your connection?
I install - Naked DSL, DSL Master Splitters, VoIP, data cabling and general computer support for home and small business.
Rural Broadband RBI installer for Ultimate Broadband and Full Flavour

 

Need help in Auckland, Waikato or BoP? Click my email button, or email me direct: [my user name] at geekzonemail dot com


Mad Scientist
17846 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2206

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1034279 30-Apr-2014 21:04
Send private message

eh variant of 700MHz?

6052 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 942

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1034283 30-Apr-2014 21:05
Send private message

Variant of M8; ie. one that doesn't support band 28.

5114 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2140

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1034302 30-Apr-2014 21:36
Send private message

joker97: eh variant of 700MHz?

Some will be the US 700 band plan.
Some may not have any 700 band at all.
Some wont do 2600 band.





Chorus has spent $1.4 billion on making their xDSL broadband network faster. If your still stuck on ADSL or VDSL, why not spend from $150 on a master filter install to make sure you are getting the most out of your connection?
I install - Naked DSL, DSL Master Splitters, VoIP, data cabling and general computer support for home and small business.
Rural Broadband RBI installer for Ultimate Broadband and Full Flavour

 

Need help in Auckland, Waikato or BoP? Click my email button, or email me direct: [my user name] at geekzonemail dot com


3363 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1004


  Reply # 1034305 30-Apr-2014 21:47
Send private message

sbiddle:
surfisup1000:
joker97: Bummer - my $1000 phone doesn't do 700MHz ...


i wonder if telecom knew the iphone 5s they were selling would be incompatible with this?

Might have been nice to have been told. 


Of course they knew. Not a single phone in the world up until the recent launch of the M8 a few weeks ago supported the APT band.

Did you assume it would work? If so I guess it's a clear case of not doing any research on a product before buying.




It is annoying that telecom knew they were selling phones that would soon be obsolete without informing their customers. 

Not everyone is an expert like yourself or follow a companies network plans. 

Personally, I may have delayed purchased my iphone 5s if I had known this.  But, thats why telecom didn't want to say right?

It goes back to the days under Teresa Gattung, where obfuscation and confusion were valuable tools. 

Although, if this network is several years away then that would be OK. It depends on the timing. 

742 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 69

Subscriber

  Reply # 1034311 30-Apr-2014 21:50
Send private message

It was the same with 3g, where VF pushed out the 2100 mhz, later phones would be able to take advantage of 900mhz 3g, particularly outside the cities.

Either way, great that the locals are getting into the 700 band they were keen on bidding on, bring on the coverage and mobiles in the coming years.

333 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 19


  Reply # 1034353 30-Apr-2014 22:26
2 people support this post
Send private message

surfisup1000: It is annoying that telecom knew they were selling phones that would soon be obsolete without informing their customers.


Just because a device doesn't support one specific band does not make it obsolete.

1312 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 171


  Reply # 1034356 30-Apr-2014 22:29
Send private message

why would vodafone use the US band plan in new zealand?

and if they can just decide to use that one why doesnt telecom and 2degrees use it too, there would be more devices supported, right?





5114 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2140

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1034360 30-Apr-2014 22:37
2 people support this post
Send private message

Why would PBTech sell me a new i7 computer when next month the super i7000 will be out and my i7 will be obsolete!




Chorus has spent $1.4 billion on making their xDSL broadband network faster. If your still stuck on ADSL or VDSL, why not spend from $150 on a master filter install to make sure you are getting the most out of your connection?
I install - Naked DSL, DSL Master Splitters, VoIP, data cabling and general computer support for home and small business.
Rural Broadband RBI installer for Ultimate Broadband and Full Flavour

 

Need help in Auckland, Waikato or BoP? Click my email button, or email me direct: [my user name] at geekzonemail dot com


383 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 190

Subscriber

  Reply # 1034369 30-Apr-2014 22:45
Send private message

Perhaps a dumb question, but is it possible that this new spectrum will open possibilities for higher mobile data caps? The commonly quoted reason for heavy limits on mobile data is lack of frequency, so...





4025 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1076

Trusted

  Reply # 1034422 30-Apr-2014 23:48
One person supports this post
Send private message

surfisup1000:
sbiddle:
surfisup1000:
joker97: Bummer - my $1000 phone doesn't do 700MHz ...


i wonder if telecom knew the iphone 5s they were selling would be incompatible with this?

Might have been nice to have been told. 


Of course they knew. Not a single phone in the world up until the recent launch of the M8 a few weeks ago supported the APT band.

Did you assume it would work? If so I guess it's a clear case of not doing any research on a product before buying.




It is annoying that telecom knew they were selling phones that would soon be obsolete without informing their customers. 

Not everyone is an expert like yourself or follow a companies network plans. 

Personally, I may have delayed purchased my iphone 5s if I had known this.  But, thats why telecom didn't want to say right?

It goes back to the days under Teresa Gattung, where obfuscation and confusion were valuable tools. 

Although, if this network is several years away then that would be OK. It depends on the timing. 

As per above, it isn't obsolete. Just because your device doesn't support a future technology it doesn't make it any less capable of doing what it was intended to do. Your device will continue to operate on the 4G coverage that continues to be deployed in cities and towns across the country.

Also as per above, there was literally nothing that supported this up until recently, and there are many many countries who will be deploying this band plan over the coming years who are in the exact same situation. There is no conspiracy, confusion or obfuscation about them not telling people in order to sell more phones. 

To be honest, blaming and or complaining to telecom about this makes you look foolish. Buyers remorse for something that might not have a future feature or technology that currently isn't available anywhere is no ones fault but your own. It's highly likely that the majority of telecom's sales and support staff do not even know any detail about this spectrum and its particulars either, until recent developments such as this announcement and the associated internal briefing that probably occured at the same time.

Regardless of this though, a usable network is ages away. Not only do they have to do trials, but licencing of the spectrum needs to be finalized, then extensive testing of the network, and then actual building out the coverage. It's quite a way off.

hamish225: why would vodafone use the US band plan in new zealand?

and if they can just decide to use that one why doesnt telecom and 2degrees use it too, there would be more devices supported, right?

Because its still in the 700mhz range, and therefore you can still look at its RF characteristics in relation to NZ landscape etc. It'll behave similar, however not identical.

Can anyone confirmed Vodafone actually used APT700 and that Telecom's claim to be the first to test it out is false?

1 | 2 | 3 | 4
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Fujifilm X beats its best with new top of the range, high-performance camera
Posted 24-Feb-2018 14:05


One million kiwis affected by cybercrime
Posted 24-Feb-2018 13:58


New Zealanders want to engage with government online and via mobile apps
Posted 24-Feb-2018 13:56


Samsung launches Samsung Max
Posted 24-Feb-2018 13:52


CPTPP text and National Interest Analysis released for public scrutiny
Posted 21-Feb-2018 19:43


Foodstuffs to trial digitised shopping trolleys
Posted 21-Feb-2018 18:27


2018: The year of zero-login, smart cars & the biometrics of things
Posted 21-Feb-2018 18:25


Intel reimagines data centre storage with new 3D NAND SSDs
Posted 16-Feb-2018 15:21


Ground-breaking business programme begins in Hamilton
Posted 16-Feb-2018 10:18


Government to continue search for first Chief Technology Officer
Posted 12-Feb-2018 20:30


Time to take Appleā€™s iPad Pro seriously
Posted 12-Feb-2018 16:54


New Fujifilm X-A5 brings selfie features to mirrorless camera
Posted 9-Feb-2018 09:12


D-Link ANZ expands connected smart home with new HD Wi-Fi cameras
Posted 9-Feb-2018 09:01


Dragon Professional for Mac V6: Near perfect dictation
Posted 9-Feb-2018 08:26


OPPO announces R11s with claims to be the picture perfect smartphone
Posted 2-Feb-2018 13:28



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.