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Topic # 151404 24-Aug-2014 14:52
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Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone has an opinion about whether it is smart to switch from VDSL to the Fibre 30 plan. Currently our finances don't permit the upgrade to Fibre 100.

In theory, the VDSL speeds are meant to range between 15-70 Mbps download and 5-10 Mbps upload, compared with the Fibre 30 which is up to 30 Mbps down and 10 Mbps up. This would seem to indicate that switching would be a sideways step at best, and a potential downgrade at worst.
I don't think we ever get close to 30 Mbps download speed, but I don't test it very often. My gut instinct says that the Fibre plan should sit closer to 30 and also be more reliably fast than VDSL is, plus changing to fibre will allow a much easier switch to faster speeds at some point in the future.

Any thoughts would be appreciated, thanks.

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  Reply # 1114569 24-Aug-2014 14:52
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  Reply # 1114582 24-Aug-2014 15:09
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What speed does your modem connect at?

I have VDSL about 34 down and 10.5 up no problem with stability issues, so not sure why you would change if your connection speed is anywhere near 30

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  Reply # 1114585 24-Aug-2014 15:16
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Fibre 30 sits around 27 down and 9-9.5 up most of the time for me

VDSL at work is usually 43 down and about 10 up...so in that case VDSL wins

 

But at least with fibre you get the ability to upgrade to 100 (or 100 being made cheaper)



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  Reply # 1114587 24-Aug-2014 15:17
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Yeah my VDSL connection speed is same as yours, and I just did a speed test and got 28 down and 10 up so that's pretty good... based on those numbers it seems silly to change over.

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  Reply # 1114590 24-Aug-2014 15:21
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dwknight: Yeah my VDSL connection speed is same as yours, and I just did a speed test and got 28 down and 10 up so that's pretty good... based on those numbers it seems silly to change over.


I whats your actual connection speed (look in modem) that speed test could be affected by congestion this time of day

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  Reply # 1114592 24-Aug-2014 15:25
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And if the current 'free' ufb plan ever ends...? Could then cost a whole heap more to make the switch too...

What's the price difference to you now?

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  Reply # 1114594 24-Aug-2014 15:27
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so your vdsl is prettymuch sitting at 30/10 sync rate.

If your provider offers UFB cheaper, or latency matters at all to you (not to mention fibre plans are likely to increase in speed, unlike their copper counterpart.) make the move to UFB.


personally in my case, i would defiantly move to fiber given the option, even if i was loosing maybe 10mbit on the download, it would be tempting - although ild love for one of those 200/200 plans!







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  Reply # 1114617 24-Aug-2014 15:40
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I do hear Gigabit plans are on the horizon, then you would be a true "Giganaire" another plus for fibre 



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  Reply # 1114618 24-Aug-2014 15:45
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Currently on Spark our VDSL plan for 150GB is $109 and the equivalent Fibre 30 plan for 150GB is also $109.

Is the installation of UFB currently free? I've heard something about that but don't know the details.

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  Reply # 1114630 24-Aug-2014 16:11
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dwknight: Currently on Spark our VDSL plan for 150GB is $109 and the equivalent Fibre 30 plan for 150GB is also $109.

Is the installation of UFB currently free? I've heard something about that but don't know the details.


if you look around you can get unlimited on the fibre 30 for under $100 and it is free to install.




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  Reply # 1115074 25-Aug-2014 12:44
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personally, where fibre is available I suggest fibre, purely based on stability

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  Reply # 1115087 25-Aug-2014 12:57
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Get fibre, Free install. 100% scalable. You can get IPTV like Vodafone offers.
VDSL will only be as good as you see now, if not degrade over time.




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  Reply # 1115124 25-Aug-2014 13:41
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Ask Spark to sweeten the deal for you, I pay $110 for unlimited 100/50mbit UFB. They'll often do it if you talk to them on the phone but it is also far better than VDSL IMO.




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