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  # 1325703 16-Jun-2015 12:24
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jaysin: I was not trying to tell YOU how UFB works. I was trying to explain to the original poster what might be causing the issue. I did not address anyone else to begin with.

I thought the idea of such forums was for people to try to explain / help with other peoples issues. Not to interrupt such conversation to flex the testosterone of your I.T. knowledge.

The fact that I have worked extensively in the LFC space does give me some sort of knowledge about how UFB works.
However, I don't see the need to tell other people about my vast knowledge of UFB, and the details I know, as it won't make me sleep better at night, and I don't see the need in portraying a large ego on a geek forum.

So, if your aim here is to try to put other people, myself in this case, in their place with your protruding extensive phallic like knowledge of I.T. you have failed, sorry.


Wow.

To be fair, you were wrong about our traffic shaping and tried to maintain that position for a while, you are wrong about the 24 way split (at least as far as what's actually deployed), and you are paying WAY too much attention to the DW PON bandwidth for an OLT port.

I'll happily flex appropriate muscles if people come and post wrong information here, more so if they carry on and defend statements I know for a fact are wrong.

You are factually correct about the PON bandwidth split (at least in the DS direction, US is a different bandwidth and a completely different method of BW sharing) but you're wrong to think it would be having a real world impact.

Cheers - N



Taffic shaping, sure, I may have been incorrect. But this isn't specific to UFB.
I did not once state that what I was told, by a Spark rep (you are a Spark rep here right?) were fact, and admitted that I was just relaying what I was told.

And again, this was in Hamilton, which uses a 24 way splitter model (in general) as per the LFC policy.
Spark, or Chorus, is not the LFC in Hamilton, so you do not know for a fact my statements are wrong, and flexing your I.T. muscles, in this case at least, is not required.
Although, if doing so makes you feel better about yourself, then feel free. It is rather amusing to be honest.

I'm quite aware that upstream traffic management is done via PCP tags, but myself and the original query didn't get that far, so there was no reason to go into it.
And now, I am not wrong to think splitters via an OLT port would have a real impact.
This is because I have been in projects which have physically tested OLT capabilities, not on Chorus / Alcatel / Ericsson equipment by the way, which does show that physical capabilty via an OLT and split ratio do indeed impact on services. This would be the reason higher CIR's are more expensive. This statement isn't to try to prove my knowledge or anything, simply backing up the statement of why I know this to be fact.

I think the main point here has been missed. This issue, at least at a layer 1 and layer 2 issue, was in HAMILTON.
As such, Spark has nothing to do with the capability of the layer 1 or layer 2 performance here.
People need to remember that NZ broadband does not solely revolve around Spark or Chorus capability.
There are other I.T. companies in N.Z. that have affect the broadband performance in N.Z.







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  # 1325704 16-Jun-2015 12:25
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Also even thinking that the GPON would be a congestion with the embarrasingly low takeup of UFB so far and the fact that most people are on really slow plans anyway?




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  # 1325705 16-Jun-2015 12:29
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richms: Also even thinking that the GPON would be a congestion with the embarrasingly low takeup of UFB so far and the fact that most people are on really slow plans anyway?


Very true, which is why I first thought to suggest it might be traffic shaping.
However, I was proven wrong on this point.

In saying that, there are some pretty big business plans out there with high CIR's. From what I've seen they are quite pricey.
Big bandwidth eaters like that usually go for P2P products like Bitstream 4 or Dark Fibre circuits anyway.



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  # 1325709 16-Jun-2015 12:34
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I'm going to let Jaysins further comments stand without challenge. You can all choose what to believe.

Cheers - N





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  # 1325711 16-Jun-2015 12:35
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Talkiet: For the record, I didn't report the post, I had a chuckle as well :-)

Cheer s- N



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Passive aggressiveness is quite the amusing pastime :-)

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  # 1325714 16-Jun-2015 12:47
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Until the OP returns with some wired speedtest results, all this talk of oversubscribed GPON and shaping and other stuff is pointless.

The OP is using a shared low bandwidth medium to speed test over the last few meters. Doesnt matter if the connection is coming down a dedicated 10GbE fiber to his house till the wifi is removed from the equation.

Quit with the what if's and wait to see where the OP's problem lies before going off on tangents.




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  # 1326038 16-Jun-2015 19:56
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My results on a wired connection 100/20 80GB plan. Spark server Auckland. I get better speeds on my phone than i do at home now. As Smelck said, i also accept  fluctuations and was happy with the speeds we were getting (50-80mbps) when we first switched. Speeds have never been this bad before but this has been the norm over the last few weeks and getting worse. Still no word from anyone regarding the ticket number i was given when i phoned spark the other day to try get it sorted and im in no hurry to call the waiting line again. Any suggestions? Would changing ISP help or could it be the lines or....?      






 
 
 
 


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  # 1326047 16-Jun-2015 20:06
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What's your location?

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  # 1326054 16-Jun-2015 20:14
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  # 1326090 16-Jun-2015 21:15
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Hmm dont think so. The test's i posted were from my pc (win 8.1), tried my chicks laptop (win 8.1), my ps4 and my phone but they all about the same. Dont have win 7 to try on tho. Maybe the router? Any way i can test it?

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  # 1326099 16-Jun-2015 21:24
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Just check with others with the same router that it can handle the full 100 megs. There are plenty that cant and you will get useless speeds because of all the dropped packets. Usually ones that came with a 100 meg lan and wan port on them but a woefully inadequate CPU between the 2 of them making 50-60 the realisitic maximum, and way less if the parental control BS is turned on.

You havent said what router you have so let us know and if there are others with it and good speeds then its clearly not the problem.

 

 




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  # 1326123 16-Jun-2015 21:51
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Using the spark supplied huawei hg630b since we first got fiber when it became available here about 10 months ago. 

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  # 1326140 16-Jun-2015 22:03
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xADDICTx: Using the spark supplied huawei hg630b since we first got fiber when it became available here about 10 months ago. 


Interesting that Spark have given you a Huawei router. Are you sure that is the router?
You should have a Huawei ONT, which is where the fibre comes into the house, and connects up to (ONT).
The ONT (usually black, but possibly white for Huawei) should then have an Ethernet cable running to the router, which should be whatever Spark supply. Which, I admit, I am not sure which brand they are.

It's quite strange that you have a far higher up rate than down. I would say it could be a bad splice or dirty LCA connector somewhere, but this is usually bad speeds in both directions.

 

If I were you, I'd wait to say what Spark have to say. In saying that, it's purely because I'm not a layer 3 or 4 expert.

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  # 1326187 16-Jun-2015 23:02
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jaysin:
xADDICTx: Using the spark supplied huawei hg630b since we first got fiber when it became available here about 10 months ago. 


Interesting that Spark have given you a Huawei router. Are you sure that is the router?
You should have a Huawei ONT, which is where the fibre comes into the house, and connects up to (ONT).
The ONT (usually black, but possibly white for Huawei) should then have an Ethernet cable running to the router, which should be whatever Spark supply. Which, I admit, I am not sure which brand they are.

It's quite strange that you have a far higher up rate than down. I would say it could be a bad splice or dirty LCA connector somewhere, but this is usually bad speeds in both directions.
If I were you, I'd wait to say what Spark have to say. In saying that, it's purely because I'm not a layer 3 or 4 expert.

Cheers
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Spark supply a Huawei HG630 for customers with 100mb or below access speeds and a Hauwei HG659 for speeds greater than 100mb.
The modem is more than capable of delivering line rate.

So much like the other thread. It would be my suspicion provisioning faults were eliminated then the only logical conclusion to come to is it is a fault with the pc. It's just a matter of finding a machine capable of driving the line rate to prove it's working as designed.

I'm a layer 2 to 7 guy.





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