Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3


1551 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1452257 17-Dec-2015 13:05
Send private message

the routing is still bad to some locations i need for gaming and getting some projects done.

going via asia to europe seems strange and this next one is even worse...



now to US East coast via a pretty huge network (Leaseweb)








19282 posts

Uber Geek
Inactive user


  # 1452259 17-Dec-2015 13:12
Send private message

@l43a2 You need to remember routing is best effort it's not guaranteed to take the most efficient route for ' you '

 
 
 
 




1551 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1452349 17-Dec-2015 15:12
Send private message

does Vodafones routing to the US east coast go via many different asian countries? no it doesn't nor does snap or any other ISP I've checked in NZ.




4231 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1452355 17-Dec-2015 15:24
Send private message

It's not my place to speak to this in detail, but I will say however that Spark values resiliency more than the absolute best latency to all locations and a significant part of what you are seeing is related to that. Other ISPs might value the shortest path instead of a fully resilient service. I HONESTLY don't know what the arrangements for other ISPs look like (and I can't find out, and won't even try)

Cheers - N





--

 

Please note all comments are the product of my own brain and don't necessarily represent the position or opinions of my employer, previous employers, colleagues, friends or pets.


19282 posts

Uber Geek
Inactive user


  # 1452357 17-Dec-2015 15:28
Send private message

l43a2: does Vodafones routing to the US east coast go via many different asian countries? no it doesn't nor does snap or any other ISP I've checked in NZ.


Routing is not static, I am sure this has been explained to you before

956 posts

Ultimate Geek
Inactive user


  # 1452359 17-Dec-2015 15:32
Send private message

One would assume other providers use multiple upstream providers, which provides the best of both worlds.. resiliency and generally shortest path.

Not sure how you can defend that crap routing with global gateway but whatever.

4231 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1452361 17-Dec-2015 15:38
Send private message

JamesL: One would assume other providers use multiple upstream providers, which provides the best of both worlds.. resiliency and generally shortest path.

Not sure how you can defend that crap routing with global gateway but whatever.


And I'm not sure you understand the various products available to ISPs.

But whatever.

Cheers - N





--

 

Please note all comments are the product of my own brain and don't necessarily represent the position or opinions of my employer, previous employers, colleagues, friends or pets.


 
 
 
 




1551 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1452367 17-Dec-2015 15:48
Send private message

johnr:
l43a2: does Vodafones routing to the US east coast go via many different asian countries? no it doesn't nor does snap or any other ISP I've checked in NZ.


Routing is not static, I am sure this has been explained to you before


yea i understand that but spark's routing has been pretty good untill the last 2 months which makes me wonder what has been changed cost cutting? who knows.





140 posts

Master Geek


  # 1452383 17-Dec-2015 16:18
Send private message

JamesL: One would assume other providers use multiple upstream providers, which provides the best of both worlds.. resiliency and generally shortest path.

Not sure how you can defend that crap routing with global gateway but whatever.


I think you'll find GGIS has all sorts of agreements with other transit providers for routing traffic....

Mr Snotty
8940 posts

Uber Geek

Moderator
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1452467 17-Dec-2015 18:44
Send private message

Considering I am getting far better results with 2degrees (and WXC) and the fact I know @l43a2 personally (and know he does have a very good technical background) different tests have been done between me and him and others and we've all concluded there is something a little strange going on with Sparks routing to multiple international destinations at the moment - not just the examples placed however the examples placed are of the more extreme. I'd honestly recommend somebody at Spark at-least looking over this instead of fobbing it off with "this is how the internet works" etc as to both myself and other people I know this is just getting worse.

For example, 8 hops is quite a bit less than the 24 on Spark. Since Spark are normally very good with routing this will be impacting some other people out there especially with online gaming or latency sensitive work. The latency I am getting is around 150-200ms less than the OP's on an ADSL connection:





4231 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1452471 17-Dec-2015 18:47
Send private message

People are looking at this particular situation, but I am NOT going to say this is a fault because things like this CAN happen due to situations beyond our reasonable control and sometimes they resolve themselves in time, sometimes they can be longer term issues (cable cuts a long way away from NZ) and sometimes they are normal.

Cheers- N




--

 

Please note all comments are the product of my own brain and don't necessarily represent the position or opinions of my employer, previous employers, colleagues, friends or pets.


Mr Snotty
8940 posts

Uber Geek

Moderator
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1452478 17-Dec-2015 18:54
Send private message

Talkiet: People are looking at this particular situation, but I am NOT going to say this is a fault because things like this CAN happen due to situations beyond our reasonable control and sometimes they resolve themselves in time, sometimes they can be longer term issues (cable cuts a long way away from NZ) and sometimes they are normal.

Cheers- N


Agreed. He said it is almost back to normal now so something has been done (this has been going on for months with him).




15389 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 1452689 17-Dec-2015 21:34
Send private message

I left one ISP partly because of really poor routing. Vote with your wallet. Sounds like it's coming right though.

1828 posts

Uber Geek
Inactive user


  # 1452701 17-Dec-2015 21:53
Send private message

looks fine on Orcon to OP IP from first post

7 19 ms 18 ms 19 ms as4610.cust.bdr02.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nz [175.45.102.66]
8 20 ms 22 ms 19 ms bundle-100.bdr02.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nz [175.45.102.65]
9 143 ms 143 ms 143 ms bundle-10.cor01.akl05.akl.VOCUS.net.nz [114.31.202.100]
10 143 ms 143 ms 143 ms bundle-200.cor02.lax01.ca.VOCUS.net [114.31.202.47]
11 144 ms 144 ms 144 ms bundle-101.bdr02.lax01.ca.VOCUS.net [114.31.199.51]
12 227 ms 189 ms 173 ms v301.core1.lax2.he.net [64.62.151.125]
13 147 ms 149 ms 149 ms 100ge2-1.core1.lax1.he.net [72.52.92.121]
14 210 ms 202 ms 202 ms 100ge15-2.core1.ash1.he.net [184.105.80.201]
15 280 ms 290 ms 280 ms 10ge7-11.core1.par2.he.net [184.105.213.94]
16 281 ms 282 ms 282 ms online.franceix.net [37.49.237.27]
17 369 ms 347 ms 349 ms 45x-s44-2-a9k1.dc3.poneytelecom.eu [195.154.1.105]
18 284 ms 284 ms 284 ms www.as12876.net [62.210.16.2]

as does the leaseweb IP

7 19 ms 18 ms 19 ms as4610.cust.bdr02.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nz [175.45.102.66]
8 54 ms 21 ms 20 ms bundle-100.bdr02.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nz [175.45.102.65]
9 144 ms 143 ms 143 ms bundle-10.cor01.akl05.akl.VOCUS.net.nz [114.31.202.100]
10 144 ms 144 ms 145 ms bundle-50.cor01.alb01.akl.VOCUS.net.nz [114.31.202.86]
11 144 ms 144 ms 144 ms bundle-200.cor01.lax01.ca.VOCUS.net [114.31.202.45]
12 144 ms 149 ms 144 ms bundle-101.bdr01.lax01.ca.VOCUS.net [114.31.199.61]
13 144 ms 143 ms 143 ms 206.72.210.213
14 215 ms 214 ms 214 ms tengigabitethernet7-2.wdc-msc2.leaseweb.net [217.20.125.40]
15 213 ms 213 ms 213 ms tengige0-0-0-7.cr2-wdc1.leaseweb.net [217.20.125.11]
16 214 ms 214 ms 214 ms po2.cs2.wdc1.leaseweb.net [108.59.15.101]
17 214 ms 214 ms 214 ms mirror.us.leaseweb.net [108.59.10.97]





1551 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1453106 18-Dec-2015 15:54
Send private message

thanks to all who've pushed this annoying issue down the line to the right people. the routes are much improved today, and the International speed now has jumped up also, getting amazing international speeds now :P could be unrelated.




1 | 2 | 3
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Switch your broadband provider now - compare prices


Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Samsung Galaxy Fold now available in New Zealand
Posted 6-Dec-2019 00:01


NZ company oDocs awarded US$ 100,000 Dubai World Expo grant
Posted 5-Dec-2019 16:00


New Zealand Rugby Selects AWS-Powered Analytics for Deeper Game Insights
Posted 5-Dec-2019 11:33


IMAGR and Farro bring checkout-less supermarket shopping to New Zealand
Posted 5-Dec-2019 09:07


Wellington Airport becomes first 5G connected airport in the country
Posted 3-Dec-2019 08:42


MetService secures Al Jazeera as a new weather client
Posted 28-Nov-2019 09:40


NZ a top 10 connected nation with stage one of ultra-fast broadband roll-out completed
Posted 24-Nov-2019 14:15


Microsoft Translator understands te reo Māori
Posted 22-Nov-2019 08:46


Chorus to launch Hyperfibre service
Posted 18-Nov-2019 15:00


Microsoft launches first Experience Center worldwide for Asia Pacific in Singapore
Posted 13-Nov-2019 13:08


Disney+ comes to LG Smart TVs
Posted 13-Nov-2019 12:55


Spark launches new wireless broadband "Unplan Metro"
Posted 11-Nov-2019 08:19


Malwarebytes overhauls flagship product with new UI, faster engine and lighter footprint
Posted 6-Nov-2019 11:48


CarbonClick launches into Digital Marketplaces
Posted 6-Nov-2019 11:42


Kordia offers Microsoft Azure Peering Service
Posted 6-Nov-2019 11:41



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.