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  Reply # 1486959 7-Feb-2016 13:57
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I had this last night too, or something similar. A pop-up "celebrating 10 years of Spark" (wtf?) inviting me to click their link to win something. I just closed it.

 

The problem with scammers like this is if you close a number down they're using, they'll just open up a new one 5 minutes later, maybe even with a different carrier and under a different name. It's almost like operating one step behind/playing catch-up with scams like these.




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  Reply # 1486965 7-Feb-2016 14:04
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I listened to your second recording.

 

He still offered you software.

 

It would be quite good to actually have them connect to a machine and see what happens but you'd have to use a pc that had nothing on it and make sure the rest of your network wasn't compromised.

 

That dialogue box that popped up says that they could delete files and folders. I wonder if its a decoy.

 

That reminds me of some email scams that are written to appear like obviously its a scam so the people that catch on to their scams, will not engage with them.

 

Certainly they are looking to attract the person who doesn't know what they are doing.

 

 

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1486974 7-Feb-2016 14:14
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Sure the down side is you'd be forever chasing them as they move.

 

And it takes time to engage with the scammers and report the website.

 

I saved the email address of the DIA

 

It might be quick to just flick the 0800 number through to the DIA and let them sort it out.

 

Sure there are some legit online tech companies so the first thing is to maybe get them to reveal that they are dodgy in the first instance, to save time.

 

Certainly the price of their services would alert a person.

 

Email the phone number to the DIA and then we could phone the number again in a few days to see if it has become inactive.

 

 

 

Any thoughts on that?

 

 

 

I recon if even just a few of us did that we could save people thousands.

 

And it says to the scammers that our country is not such an easy target.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1487000 7-Feb-2016 15:03
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You'd be better of reporting abuse to the LogMeIn team. They will nuke their capability to connect from orbit. :)




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  Reply # 1487006 7-Feb-2016 15:27
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I've done that now

 

In the comments on the logmein site I used the 6 digits codes the scammers gave me and their website.

 

 

 

I've tried ringing the number again but it just goes to their hold music.

 

Been on hold for 30mins now.

 

Surely they can't be that busy.

 

It may be nightime over there and perhaps they are just a small man operation.

 

At least they will be paying for the hold call.

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1487032 7-Feb-2016 15:51
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Spoofing phone numbers when calling is actually amazingly simple. There are online services that allow you to send text messages and make calls from almost any number you want.

 

Here is a Google translated article from a norwegian consumer website that did some googling and found out just how easy it is to spoof SMS and phone numbers, after people in Norway had been getting phone calls from scammers that seemed to come from norwegian cell phone numbers. 







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  Reply # 1487055 7-Feb-2016 16:45
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Hello

 

I see, so what about the 0800 phone number, are you saying that when I dial that number it could be diverted to somewhere else and maybe the 0800 number I dialed actually belongs to a legit person or company?

 

The 0800 was displayed on the website and I dialed it from my landline phone as I have an unlisted number they won't be able to see my phone number at their end.

 

If the phone number I originally dialed is not actually going directly to the scammers then probably I need to contact Godaddy and the logmein abuse section with the 6 digit codes the scammers gave me.

 

The DIA would follow the phone number up.

 

Also then that 0800 number could stay the same but it could be diverted anywhere at anytime.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1487065 7-Feb-2016 16:59
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Having an unlisted/unpublished number does not mdean other parties can't see your number - it simply mean's it is not published by directory service.

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  Reply # 1487100 7-Feb-2016 17:37
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I'd like to have my number spoofed as 111.

 

"Hi, this is [insert scammer name here] calling from the fire service. Your house is on fire, please exit now and leave all your valuables behind in the house." tongue-out


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  Reply # 1487151 7-Feb-2016 19:33
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Why be complicated? Just ring your victim and ask them to participate in a short survey, like what is your brand of TV, and when do you go on holiday?

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1487199 7-Feb-2016 22:08

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I did a take 2 with a fresh Windows 10 machine. I think he detected I was using a virtual machine and changed his tone. I could remove all the VM parts of this machine to make it appear as physical as possible however have better things to do right now. All up, wasted half an hour of their time.

 

The guy refused to do anything because he didn't feel anything was wrong with it - such a different experience compared to those above.

 

 

Your installed control panel/programs and features looked a bit odd with nothing in it. It would probably have been a good idea to download/install some Microsoft demos. Almost anything (Microsoft) will also install a multitude of .NET related stuff etc..

 

The first guy seemed a bit confused over the VirtualBox guest tools. He kept going back to it.

 

The second guy pretty much knew you were using a VM. Although, I don't think he checked devices and services. That would have let him know for sure.

 

However, I thought he acted pretty professionally overall and I didn't see anything obviously wrong that they did to your 'PC'.

 

Of course the best scams are the most convincing and everyone always has to be careful (/edit actually I mean extremely skeptical - not just careful) on the Internet!

 

After seeing your video - I just don't know.

 

How would someone setup and run a legitimate business like this on the Internet?

 

 




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  Reply # 1487226 7-Feb-2016 23:01
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If you want them to clean your machine you pay them $300.00 US dollars (447.00 NZ) and leave your computer on for 10-12hrs.

 

According to the scammers that's a saving of $600.00 because in NZ techs charge $150.00 per hour.

 

 


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  Reply # 1487236 7-Feb-2016 23:22

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If you want them to clean your machine you pay them $300.00 US dollars (447.00 NZ) and leave your computer on for 10-12hrs.

 

According to the scammers that's a saving of $600.00 because in NZ techs charge $150.00 per hour.

 

 

 

 

 

 

What do NZ techs charge for the same thing?




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  Reply # 1487243 8-Feb-2016 00:30
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Thats probably variable but the two MS techs I know charge about that including GST per hour.

 

They wouldn't charge more than 2 hours worth.

 

If I was paying $447.00 NZ I'd expect to have my whole machine formatted, windows reinstalled with all the latest updates and drivers and documents and programmes reinstalled.

 

 


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  Reply # 1487297 8-Feb-2016 10:36
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Ford:

 

Thats probably variable but the two MS techs I know charge about that including GST per hour.

 

They wouldn't charge more than 2 hours worth.

 

If I was paying $447.00 NZ I'd expect to have my whole machine formatted, windows reinstalled with all the latest updates and drivers and documents and programmes reinstalled.

 

 

I've worked in a "premium" IT company charging $190 per hour. Had one customer who got malware on his computer, did remote support and managed to remove it however he did get a bill of over $500 for it since it was incredibly difficult to remove and had propagated through his network to other hosts. This didn't even include the NOD32 license.

 

If they're charging $447.00 for a remote repair + AV install (where AV = being something legitimate) then that sounds about right.





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