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  #122665 10-Apr-2008 20:38
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200mb isnt alot and the price just seems ridiculous.Even my uncle does web surfing and download emails using dialup passes 200 mb.

I find $30 is a bit of a ripp o for $30 and to say it is  $16 for the first 3 months.They'll surely fool alot of users

 
 
 

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  #122673 10-Apr-2008 20:54
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ninjabear: 200mb isnt alot and the price just seems ridiculous.Even my uncle does web surfing and download emails using dialup passes 200 mb.

I find $30 is a bit of a ripp o for $30 and to say it is $16 for the first 3 months.They'll surely fool alot of users

The most rip off part is the overage: $0.20 / MB!

The offer is also valid for 6 months, on a 11 month contract.




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  #122677 10-Apr-2008 21:01
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It will be to get people to move over, then get them to move up to a better plan. 200 megs with overage like that is unusable IMO, but some people do not see any reason to get broadband because dialup is good enough, This will give them a show of why they need it, at "no extra cost" to them.

Good marketing idea IMO.




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  #122754 11-Apr-2008 08:34
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richms: Good marketing idea IMO.


I disagree

Its not the dollar cost I object to

It is the fraudulent nature of their advertising claims

It is but another example of how Telecom treat their customers

And why, as a company, they can not be trusted

I think they need to be more up-front, and to show their clients more respect

(But I aint holding my breath)





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  #122758 11-Apr-2008 08:47
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jim.cox:
richms: Good marketing idea IMO.


I disagree

Its not the dollar cost I object to

It is the fraudulent nature of their advertising claims

It is but another example of how Telecom treat their customers

And why, as a company, they can not be trusted

I think they need to be more up-front, and to show their clients more respect

(But I aint holding my breath)


Sorry, but am I completely missing the point here? What exactly is "fraudulent" about the advertising? The offer is pretty clear, it clearly states it's for Residential and Home Business customers, and that it involves a contract term. Is there anything else it should be saying?




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  #122760 11-Apr-2008 08:49
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jim.cox: Its not the dollar cost I object to

It is the fraudulent nature of their advertising claims

It is but another example of how Telecom treat their customers

And why, as a company, they can not be trusted

I think they need to be more up-front, and to show their clients more respect

(But I aint holding my breath)


Let me see. You are on a $2.50 per hour plan. Telecom is offering a broadband plan for $19.95 You say you use only $5 a month. So obviously you don't need the always on possibilities of a broadband plan. Neither the speed.

If you were to be online 24/7 for a month, your dial-up plan would cost you $1825 a mont (365 days a year, 24 hours a day, 12 months per year, not counting leap year).

Of course there's the case of 200 MB per month, but if you only use 2 hours of dial-up a month then 200 MB a month should be enough?

Ok, not counting the free modem you can keep. And the free connection.

Really, I can't see why you are calling it "fraudulent".




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#122762 11-Apr-2008 08:50
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manhinli: The most rip off part is the overage: $0.20 / MB!



Perhaps $0.02cents / MB?

jim.cox: I disagree

Its not the dollar cost I object to

It is the fraudulent nature of their advertising claims

It is but another example of how Telecom treat their customers

And why, as a company, they can not be trusted

I think they need to be more up-front, and to show their clients more respect

(But I aint holding my breath)


????

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  #122773 11-Apr-2008 09:23
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freitasm:
Really, I can't see why you are calling it "fraudulent".


"Broadband for the price of dialup"

It isn't - at least not in my case

"$16.95 per month"

But only for the first few months

Maybe "fraudulent" is too strong - lets just say "misleading"

I still think Telecom are not being as up-front and honest as they should be





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#122775 11-Apr-2008 09:30
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jim.cox:
freitasm:
Really, I can't see why you are calling it "fraudulent".


"Broadband for the price of dialup"

It isn't - at least not in my case

"$16.95 per month"



I see. So you rather see then charging you $2.50 per hour on a connection that stays up all the time?

Because there's no way to compare a 24/7 connection when you are talking about your own use of 2 hours per month. Obviously it's not for you then.

But if you pay $2.50 per hour and use the Internet for more then seven hours a month...


By the way, I couldn't find the $2.50 per hour plan anywhere on Telecom's site. Does it still exist or are you on an old plan that is no longer avcailable? If this is the case then I think it is reasonable Telecom offer this as "for the price of dialup", if it matches its current available plans.







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  #122776 11-Apr-2008 09:34
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jim.cox:
freitasm:
Really, I can't see why you are calling it "fraudulent".


"Broadband for the price of dialup"

It isn't - at least not in my case

"$16.95 per month"

But only for the first few months

Maybe "fraudulent" is too strong - lets just say "misleading"

I still think Telecom are not being as up-front and honest as they should be



Sorry jim, but I have to disagree completely.

It is absolutely "Broadband for the price of dialup". Broadband is charged at a monthly rate, so you can get broadband at the same rate as the monthly dialup rate with Xtra. You're not on a monthly rate, but hourly, so to say that it is "misleading" is in itself innaccurate and misleading as you are comparing two completely different products.

And if you're going to quote, quote correctly. The advertising clearly says "$16.95 per month for the first 6 months". Nothing at all misleading about that. 




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  #122778 11-Apr-2008 09:38
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Another thing jim - are you actually with Xtra at all? As freitasm says, the $2.50 an hour plan is not one they currently offer.





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  #122781 11-Apr-2008 09:43
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BiggusDoggus:

Another thing jim - are you actually with Xtra at all? As freitasm says, the $2.50 an hour plan is not one they currently offer.



As far as I can tell I am

After the Yahoo/bubble fiasco I'm not so sure

My email addresss is @xtra.co.nz

And i keep on getting a bill from them every month

I signed up with them many many moons ago - so I would not be surprised if the plan is no longer available - my account with Vodaphone is also like that


And I wouldn't call it $2.50 per hour - thats what it was originally - but they changed it to $5 per month for up to 2 hours - bit of a shame that as I normally only use around 15 minutes :(

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#122783 11-Apr-2008 09:50
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That's my point. You can't go to a retail store and ask them to match a price offered by a competitor (ort themselves) two years ago.







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#122784 11-Apr-2008 09:56
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jim.cox: And I wouldn't call it $2.50 per hour - thats what it was originally - but they changed it to $5 per month for up to 2 hours - bit of a shame that as I normally only use around 15 minutes :(


So you are posting from work now? And I suppose you don't use much at home then? Because 15 minutes a month for dialup is nothing. Not even enough to check emails.




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  #122787 11-Apr-2008 10:15
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jim.cox: But I'm only paying $5 per month for dial-up

They'll have to do better than that...


i do not get you jim cox -
you are saying that because you pay $5 for 2 pieces of chicken nuggets at cafe X a month and you eat the rest of your meals at your mother's place, cafe X is more reasonable than cafe Y who charges $17 for 2 pieces of nuggets per day for 30 days (or all at once).

15 min at 56kbps for $5 vs unlimited time at 256kbps limited to 200mb for $17 is just that comparison!

*sigh* ...

look i'm not saying that i would jump at glee at the xtra offer but surely that has to be better than your $5 "plan"!

btw yes xtra does have that $2.50 dial up if you request it. i guess it's not advertised due to them trying to encourage broadband.

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