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Topic # 210196 17-Mar-2017 13:36
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Hi All,


I would like to know if there is a way to enable all HTTP connections to the Spark HG659B Home Gateway device to be HTTPS by default?


IMHO this should be the only way to connect to your modem as if I purchased a current quality, alternative from TP-Link, HTTPS would be activated.


I've have looked through all the sections on the device portal, read the Huawei Manual and quite a few pages of this forum to no avail.


If there is no way to do this, fine however a feedback channel to Spark NZ in relation to this would be appreciated.



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  Reply # 1742751 17-Mar-2017 13:44
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Erm why? You shouldn't need HTTPS if it is just on your local network as you're only going to man in the middle yourself. If you've got it exposed to the internet then disable this now.

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  Reply # 1742784 17-Mar-2017 14:49
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It's internal but still, why not mandate HTTPS?


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  Reply # 1742786 17-Mar-2017 14:55
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How would you add a valid certificate? A self-signed certificate would throw a browser error that would freak most users out.

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  Reply # 1742788 17-Mar-2017 14:55
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I'm not aware of any way to force this. The router will respond to HTTPS if you address it directly, but doesn't appear to be able to force it - at least not in a standard and supported way. I don't know what you might be able to do from a CLI but it's not going to be a supported config.


FWIW - I agree with the above that this is not particularly valuable. If someone is already on your network then you've already lost.


Cheers - N



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  Reply # 1742795 17-Mar-2017 15:09
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Why do you believe it's such an essential feature?


HTTPS without signed certs is a waste of time due to the errors it throw up in modern browsers.

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  Reply # 1742799 17-Mar-2017 15:14
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Latest firefox throws up warnings about inputing passwords over an unencrypted connection, which I noticed recently on my HG659B. So, some users are going to freak out either way.

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  Reply # 1742801 17-Mar-2017 15:22
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The only way to make it not freak people out is to rely on it DNS intercepting a fully qualified name they have the ability to get a cert generated for, which IMO is a much more messy solution than just using http and putting up with the not secure message.


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  Reply # 1749127 28-Mar-2017 01:50
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To get a trusted cert installed on a router would mean the private keys for that cert would have to also be saved into that router. This would be very,very bad. As anyone who has that router would be able to get access to those private keys and issue their own fake certs for any website. That would then be trusted by web browsers.


And if the connection is getting bounced between you - server somewhere on the internet - router. Then you have to also trust that server.


I would be very worried if routers are getting shipped out with trusted certs installed in them. To make it at least semi secure the router would need a TPM installed. And then it would need a way of been securely updated, as certs only last for 2 years. Since consumer grade routers are cheaply made, and various models have been previously hacked. I see 0 chance of certs on a consumer router not getting hacked almost immediately. And if you don't have internet access, how would your browser check if the cert has been revoked or not?

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