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Topic # 220358 7-Aug-2017 18:29
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I was contacted by Spark last week. The rep asked if I would like to change over to a wireless service, as it would give me double the speed I’m currently getting, and would cost less than I pay now. Unfortunately, he didn’t tell me it would be a capped data service, unlike the unlimited one I currently have. I got back to talk to him today, but after all the sales pitch, I then find that our current telephone system would become obsolete. So my first question here is, is there a way around this?

 

 

 

We live on a rural block, and have workshops that are remote from the house, which have telephone lines (cat5e) running to them. Our house is also quite large, and a simple multi-handset single base system wouldn’t work for us. Also, the modem point is in a garage corridor, which would make the base unit inaccessible really, when plugged into the wireless modem.

 

Does anyone know a way of using our existing wired phone lines on a “wireless” network system, or is this impossible?

 

 

 

Also, should I just stick with the current setup, which is the Home Broadband Unlimited Data Plan

 

 

 

I have a couple of add-ons, and including my mobile phone with 100mins, it costs me around $179/mth.

 

I average around 100gb of data use, but this may go up soon as I have installed a NAS, and plan on downloading films etc etc… we are eligible for their “rural” wireless data plan, which with a discount would only cost about $5 more than we currently pay (all being equal).

 

 

 

Well, firstly, if I cant use the telephones in both workshops, as well as the house, it’s a non starter. Secondly, even if this is possible, is wireless a flim-flam game, and would I be better off staying with copper?

 

Our speeds are not poor admittedly. We average around 5.5mbps/up and 0.5mbps/down, which is probably on par with someone living in a hut in outer Mongolia!

 

 

 

I would be grateful of any sage advice.

 

Thanks


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  Reply # 1840715 7-Aug-2017 18:32
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Copper will not be obsolete for many many years to come that statement is rubbish

 

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edit: added link

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/95221189/chorus-ropes-in-mps-in-clash-with-spark-over-broadband-advice




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  Reply # 1840718 7-Aug-2017 18:34
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.sorry, my message wasn't clear. I meant that our HOUSE phones (wired) would no longer work. Also our outhouse/workshops would no longer have working phones. 


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1840719 7-Aug-2017 18:36
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Added link above the copper xDSL network is not going anywhere right now

 

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  Reply # 1840721 7-Aug-2017 18:38
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Thank you.... interesting read.


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  Reply # 1840723 7-Aug-2017 18:42
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I don't have any direct experience with fixed cellular wireless internet connections. But with fibre connections, the existing house phone wiring can still be used, provided it is (physically) disconnected from the external copper lead-in. Once disconnected, it can be livened up by plugging the VOIP line from the fibre into an existing phone jack, or a new one wired up for that purpose. If you get a VOIP line with the fixed wireless, I would say that the same would apply

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  Reply # 1840725 7-Aug-2017 18:53
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Are there any advantage / disadvantage with latency on a telco 'wireless' connection?



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  Reply # 1840735 7-Aug-2017 19:12
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Froob, that would be good.... but I dont know if you do. Disconnecting the incoming is a breeze, as I installed a patch panel, with the incoming line directly "in". Could disconnect in two secs... but, just a question then of if I had the option of... what you said.


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  Reply # 1840740 7-Aug-2017 19:19
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Britguy:

 

Froob, that would be good.... but I dont know if you do. Disconnecting the incoming is a breeze, as I installed a patch panel, with the incoming line directly "in". Could disconnect in two secs... but, just a question then of if I had the option of... what you said.

 

 

That makes things very easy, just disconnect the incoming line, then plug the wireless modem into any phone socket. That would liven your whole house with the phone signal.

 

As for whether you want to switch or not, you'll have to weigh up which is more important to you, data caps or speed.

 

If you tell us where in the country you are maybe there are other alternatives.




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  Reply # 1840742 7-Aug-2017 19:24
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North Canty, just off main state highway 1 (90 mtrs). Fibre so close and yet so far.... been told maybe fifteen years away, maybe never! We are 1km away from Pegasus town.


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  Reply # 1840754 7-Aug-2017 19:27
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Approx where are you? Do you have a master filter installed for your DSL? If distance to workshop is too long, you can have issues with integrating VoIP into home wiring. Wireless broadband will also be CG-NAT, so if you use port forwarding for anything, this won't work.




Chorus has spent $1.4 billion on making their xDSL broadband network faster. If your still stuck on ADSL or VDSL, why not spend from $150 on a master filter install to make sure you are getting the most out of your connection?
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  Reply # 1840755 7-Aug-2017 19:29
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I have a wireless router at present, an ASUS RT-AC88U, and a standard spark modem I guess. So, is it as simple as plugging in a new wireless modem to the phone lines? Why didnt they tell me that?




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  Reply # 1840757 7-Aug-2017 19:35
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"Approx where are you? Do you have a master filter installed for your DSL? If distance to workshop is too long, you can have issues with integrating VoIP into home wiring. Wireless broadband will also be CG-NAT, so if you use port forwarding for anything, this won't work."

 

Coffeebaron, yes, I have a master filter installed on the panel. Distance to one workshop, maybe 30mts of cat5e, to farthest, maybe 90mts all told from panel, again all cat5e. 

 

Port forwarding, yes, I believe so. I have a calibre library, which I set up port forwarding on (inbuilt server). Also, maybe I have to do this for my NAS too, but its new to me and have to work my way through the various amenities etc. 

 

 




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  Reply # 1840758 7-Aug-2017 19:38
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... I may be wrong, as I red your underline that a master filter is $150.

 

What im talking about is a simple "plugin filter"... costs nowt!




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  Reply # 1840759 7-Aug-2017 19:39
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... so no port forwarding with wireless???


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  Reply # 1840762 7-Aug-2017 19:40
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That is a line filter not a master filter and no to porting forwarding on wireless

 

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Edit: Get a master filter and remove the line filters


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