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geektahiti
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  #2043353 25-Jun-2018 08:21
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my router restarted during night time and at my surprise the latency is now back to normal:

 

 

 

any explanation from the Team?


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  #2043366 25-Jun-2018 08:34
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I dont recall you having a static ip.

Likely you got an ip on another range that's unaffected.




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  #2043408 25-Jun-2018 09:40
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I've never been able to replicate the issue on my connections - can anyone else affected please see if they are now fixed?

 

Cheers - Neil G





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  #2043421 25-Jun-2018 09:46
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The Spark connection here is still affected. 

 

Tracing route to www.telstra.com.au [203.36.148.7]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms home.gateway.pace.net [192.168.1.254]
2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms home.gateway.pace.net [192.168.1.254]
3 18 ms 29 ms 30 ms 125-239-244-1-adsl.bb.spark.co.nz [125.239.244.1]
4 * * 31 ms mdr-ip24-int.msc.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.116.6]
5 30 ms 30 ms 31 ms ae8-10.akbr6.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.116.5]
6 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms ae2-6.tkbr12.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.127.17]
7 53 ms 53 ms 54 ms xe0-0-4.sebr3.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.127.90]
8 54 ms 54 ms 54 ms 122.56.119.86
9 53 ms 62 ms 54 ms ae-17.r20.sydnau02.au.bb.gin.ntt.net [103.13.80.121]
10 54 ms 53 ms 53 ms ae-0.au.sydnau02.au.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.9.14]
11 54 ms 54 ms 72 ms 202.68.65.137
12 173 ms 173 ms 173 ms Bundle-Ether50.chw-edge903.sydney.telstra.net [110.145.238.89]
13 177 ms 178 ms 177 ms bundle-ether2.ken-edge903.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.11.174]
14 175 ms 175 ms 175 ms bundle-ether17.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.11.172]
15 187 ms 187 ms 187 ms bundle-ether12.win-core10.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.123]
16 184 ms 184 ms 184 ms tengigabitethernet7-1.win22.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.80.162]
17 186 ms 186 ms 186 ms telstr745.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.39.114]
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 186 ms 186 ms 186 ms 203.36.148.7

 

 

 

And on 2Degrees

 

Tracing route to www.telstra.com.au [203.36.190.11]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 30 ms 30 ms 41 ms 69.7.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.7.69]
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 64 ms 64 ms 63 ms 4.56.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.56.4]
5 64 ms 64 ms 64 ms 5.56.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.56.5]
6 64 ms 64 ms 64 ms BE-108.cor01.syd11.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.192.84]
7 65 ms 64 ms 64 ms bundle-100.bdr01.syd11.nsw.vocus.net.au [114.31.192.81]
8 64 ms 64 ms 64 ms Bundle-Ether12.ken-edge903.sydney.telstra.net [203.27.185.57]
9 66 ms 67 ms 65 ms bundle-ether17.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.11.172]
10 64 ms 64 ms 65 ms tengigabitethernet7-1.stl1.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.20.50]
11 64 ms 65 ms 64 ms telstr1429.lnk.telstra.net [165.228.136.114]
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 65 ms 67 ms 66 ms 203.36.190.11


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  #2043480 25-Jun-2018 11:48
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Yep mine is still affected. As hio77 mentioned, the issue is NOT fixed just that geektahiti's ip changed with the router reset and got given an ip in an unaffected range.

 

 

 


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  #2046140 29-Jun-2018 17:56
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Talkiet:

 

I've never been able to replicate the issue on my connections - can anyone else affected please see if they are now fixed?

 

Cheers - Neil G

 

 

Any updates you can give from Spark or if you've heard anything from your international team? Still experiencing this high latency..


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  #2047567 2-Jul-2018 14:41
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Latency to telstra seems normal after a few restarts - I guess I got given an IP in an unaffected range?
However still getting consistently high latency with blizzard services namely WoW so seems there's still a routing issue there?


 
 
 
 


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  #2047572 2-Jul-2018 14:51
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jspk:

 

Latency to telstra seems normal after a few restarts - I guess I got given an IP in an unaffected range?
However still getting consistently high latency with blizzard services namely WoW so seems there's still a routing issue there?

 

 

Think this is the first i'm hearing of it affecting another route other than telstra.

 

 

 

Would need to check out trace on an affected IP, it's possible they are using telstra as their carrier and thus also affected.





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  #2047574 2-Jul-2018 14:59
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Instructions on how to do a traceroute to the relevant server IPs can be found here.

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  #2049079 4-Jul-2018 15:36
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Talkiet:

 

I've never been able to replicate the issue on my connections - can anyone else affected please see if they are now fixed?

 

Cheers - Neil G

 

 

Here's an easy way to test - https://www.telstra.net/cgi-bin/trace

 

If the geolocation data is correct, Telstra seems to be routing affected ranges via Hong Kong.

 

1 gigabitethernet3-3.exi1.melbourne.telstra.net (203.50.77.49) 0.359 ms 0.268 ms 0.240 ms
2 bundle-ether3-100.exi-core10.melbourne.telstra.net (203.50.80.1) 2.613 ms 1.416 ms 2.117 ms
3 bundle-ether12.chw-core10.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.11.124) 14.234 ms 14.285 ms 13.109 ms
4 bundle-ether1.oxf-gw11.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.93) 15.859 ms 14.534 ms 15.109 ms
5 bundle-ether1.sydo-core03.sydney.reach.com (203.50.13.98) 15.359 ms 14.535 ms 14.983 ms
6 i-0-1-0-15.sydo-core04.bi.telstraglobal.net (202.84.222.54) 15.733 ms
7 i-0-4-0-29.1wlt-core02.bx.telstraglobal.net (202.84.136.209) 157.576 ms 157.598 ms 155.872 ms
8 i-92.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.net (202.84.253.82) 155.401 ms
9 unknown.telstraglobal.net (134.159.63.171) 155.329 ms 159.828 ms 237.356 ms
10 206.82.129.90 (206.82.129.90) 154.149 ms 153.953 ms 153.906 ms
11 ae0-10.lebr7.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.232.41) 154.900 ms 154.702 ms 154.777 ms
12 xe8-0-5-0.tkbr12.global-gateway.net.nz (210.55.202.193) 156.526 ms 156.200 ms
13 ae6-10.akbr6.global-gateway.net.nz (122.56.127.18) 155.075 ms
14 ae10-10.tkbr12.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.232.29) 159.322 ms
15 * ae6-10.akbr6.global-gateway.net.nz (122.56.127.18) 161.825 ms

 

 


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  #2049089 4-Jul-2018 15:54

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6 i-0-1-0-15.sydo-core04.bi.telstraglobal.net (202.84.222.54) 15.733 ms
7 i-0-4-0-29.1wlt-core02.bx.telstraglobal.net (202.84.136.209) 157.576 ms 157.598 ms 155.872 ms
8 i-92.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.net (202.84.253.82) 155.401 ms
9 unknown.telstraglobal.net (134.159.63.171) 155.329 ms 159.828 ms 237.356 ms

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would Suggest -

 

  • hop 7 is 1 Wilshire (Coresite, which has Southern Cross in it) in Los Angeles
  • hop 8 is Equinix DC also in Los Angles, this is where most of Spark's kit is and where Telstra and Spark will interconnect in some way

 

 

Not Hong Kong, 1 Wilshire is largely the default DC for SC based traffic hitting the US for all SC traffic from NZ/AUS. I was there last week in fact. The issue is Telstra is preferring the network At Equinix over the network likely being advertised by spark to them in Sydney. Of course if they "peered" this would not happen as peering sessions are always preferred over transit sessions.

 

 

 

https://www.coresite.com/data-centers/locations/los-angeles/one-wilshire

 

https://www.equinix.com/locations/united-states-colocation/los-angeles-data-centers/


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  #2049111 4-Jul-2018 16:24
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Note Spark's upstream provider Tata AS6453 hop in between.

 

 

9 unknown.telstraglobal.net (134.159.63.171) 155.329 ms 159.828 ms 237.356 ms
10 206.82.129.90 (206.82.129.90) 154.149 ms 153.953 ms 153.906 ms

 

 

Could potentially be at least three parties involved.

jspk

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  #2052331 9-Jul-2018 22:48
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Month later and issue still not fixed and no updates from spark frown


noroad
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  #2052382 10-Jul-2018 08:19

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Month later and issue still not fixed and no updates from spark frown

 

 

 

 

um, you are not still expecting this to get fixed at this point are you? If its been a month I would suggest its now in the too hard bucket and the case has been quietly closed, after all you do have communication with the end point, its just sub-optimal routing. If you want optimised routing I would suggest picking a service provider with an open peering policy.


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  #2052612 10-Jul-2018 13:13
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noroad:

 

jspk:

 

Month later and issue still not fixed and no updates from spark frown

 

 

 

 

um, you are not still expecting this to get fixed at this point are you? If its been a month I would suggest its now in the too hard bucket and the case has been quietly closed, after all you do have communication with the end point, its just sub-optimal routing. If you want optimised routing I would suggest picking a service provider with an open peering policy.

 

 

Surely this latency/sub-optimal routing is being noticed by others and is something they'd want to fix? Looks pretty bad when other ISP's aren't having this issue.
Do I just have to wait for this to be fixed overseas?
Anyone who had this issue have a workaround for this (vpn etc.)?


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