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Topic # 239988 14-Aug-2018 11:12
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/106238129/spark-secures-nz-rights-to-premier-league-with-more-deals-to-come

 

Thought there may have been a release thread created. If one is, feel free to remove this

 

Stuff comments were funny, from terrible news, to the usual Sky bashing. One person even said he wont pay over $10 per month and he wants all the extras incl 4k. All for the price of one Latte every 14 days


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  Reply # 2073200 14-Aug-2018 11:18
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My concern is with Spark partnering with a "specialist sports-streaming platform provider" to deliver its sports content. Regardless of who that is, unless they have servers in NZ, there is going to be a massive demand on international bandwidth which ISPs are going to have have to foot the bill for when it comes time for the RWC next year.


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  Reply # 2073202 14-Aug-2018 11:20
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stinger:

 

My concern is with Spark partnering with a "specialist sports-streaming platform provider" to deliver its sports content. Regardless of who that is, unless they have servers in NZ, there is going to be a massive demand on international bandwidth which ISPs are going to have have to foot the bill for when it comes time for the RWC next year.

 

 

i'd imagine spark would be hosting this in country.





 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 2073203 14-Aug-2018 11:21
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It would be madness to not have local caching for these streams.  


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  Reply # 2073204 14-Aug-2018 11:27
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So Sky hasnt had these rights since 2012?  But somehow its a Sky thing.

 

PLP + Lightbox Sports (Spark).  New provider.  New platform.  

 

Then BeIn.  New provider.  New platform.

 

And now Spark.  New provider.  As yet to be developed platform.  

 

 

 

No surprise that Spark has it.  After winning RWC if it didnt get something else then that'd stand out like a shag-on-a-rock.  And no surprise that BeIN didnt get it after Optus got the Aussie rights again, it made the NZ rights an absolute orphan.  I'd hope that Spark was the only bidder.  At the rumoured USD4m/year for the last contract one would hate for Spark to have bid even higher. Would be criminal.  Think it'll be less than BeIN's $20/mth???  

 

Whatever happens it'll probably be yet another provider in 2022!


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  Reply # 2073205 14-Aug-2018 11:33
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l43a2:

 

i'd imagine spark would be hosting this in country.

 

 

I hope they don't. Spark don't openly peer with other ISPs in this country, so the other ISP are going to need to buy enough bandwidth from Spark to support their streams. I would hope that the servers are in a data centre that openly peers with anyone that wants too.


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  Reply # 2073221 14-Aug-2018 11:44
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l43a2:

 

i'd imagine spark would be hosting this in country.

 

Fine for people who are on Spark.
Not fine for other providers who now have to foot the bill on more expensive bandwidth to Spark or go via Australia.

 

Would make more sense for them to host it on AWS than host it within the Spark network from a providers point of view.





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  Reply # 2073223 14-Aug-2018 11:50
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Would make more sense for them to host it on AWS than host it within the Spark network from a providers point of view.

 

 

I have no idea on costs, but surely the peering bandwidth from Spark is going to be cheaper than needing to buy international transit for AWS (whose nearest node is Sydney)


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  Reply # 2073227 14-Aug-2018 11:57
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tdgeek:

 

One person even said he wont pay over $10 per month and he wants all the extras incl 4k. All for the price of one Latte every 14 days

 

 

It's worth looking at the price to watch every EPL game in the UK this year with Now sport (who's parent company is Sky) where an online subscription comes in at £179 at present with the promo they're currently running.

 

 


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  Reply # 2073230 14-Aug-2018 12:02
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tdgeek:

 

One person even said he wont pay over $10 per month and he wants all the extras incl 4k. All for the price of one Latte every 14 days

 

 

It's worth looking at the price to watch every EPL game in the UK this year with Now sport (who's parent company is Sky) where an online subscription comes in at £179 at present with the promo they're currently running.

 

 

 

 

Parent company is Sky UK.  Not connected with Sky NZ in any way, shape or form.


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  Reply # 2073240 14-Aug-2018 12:39
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sbiddle:

tdgeek:


One person even said he wont pay over $10 per month and he wants all the extras incl 4k. All for the price of one Latte every 14 days



It's worth looking at the price to watch every EPL game in the UK this year with Now sport (who's parent company is Sky) where an online subscription comes in at £179 at present with the promo they're currently running.


 



That's 350nzd for a season




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  Reply # 2073248 14-Aug-2018 12:48
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sdavisnz:
sbiddle:

 

tdgeek:

 

 

 

One person even said he wont pay over $10 per month and he wants all the extras incl 4k. All for the price of one Latte every 14 days

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's worth looking at the price to watch every EPL game in the UK this year with Now sport (who's parent company is Sky) where an online subscription comes in at £179 at present with the promo they're currently running.

 

 

 

 

 



That's 350nzd for a season

 

So, smaller country, NZ$100 for the season sound fair? Or $20 per month, that sounds more standard


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tdgeek:

 



 

So, smaller country, NZ$100 for the season sound fair? Or $20 per month, that sounds more standard

 

 

Yes, it totally doesn't work like that at all.  But this is what "some" people wanted, sports broken out into pay per sport.  As i have always said, great if you only like 1 sports, very very costly if you like 3 or more.


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So, smaller country, NZ$100 for the season sound fair? Or $20 per month, that sounds more standard

 

 

For comparison, Optus Sport charge AU$15 for their monthly pass, or 'free' on eligible Optus mobile plans. So $20/month is probably the price point that Spark will be working at. It's also what BeIN subscribers pay if they buy BeiN separate from their Sky channels.


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  Reply # 2074733 17-Aug-2018 10:21
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stinger:

 

My concern is with Spark partnering with a "specialist sports-streaming platform provider" to deliver its sports content. Regardless of who that is, unless they have servers in NZ, there is going to be a massive demand on international bandwidth which ISPs are going to have have to foot the bill for when it comes time for the RWC next year.

 

 

 

 

I recommend you look at what Multicast is. There would be only 1 stream across the ditch.


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SO so so much disinformation and flat out wrong information here. Spark is engaging with the industry (other RSPs and LFCs plus some others I think) to keep them suitably up to date with our plans, proposed technical approaches and expected traffic volumes over time for the Rugby World Cup (specifically) but the EPL (and any possible future sports) will be on the same platform.

 

Oddly, we're not doing this level of engagement with individual users.

 

Cheers - N


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