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  Reply # 2114046 25-Oct-2018 20:21
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One of the old BoF areas - must be 3 or 4 years since they were moved over to standard UFB.




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  Reply # 2114050 25-Oct-2018 20:28
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cyril7:

 

Hi, yes that is correct, just be aware that the phone socket on the ONT will be an RJ12 (ie 4/6pin RJ connector, not an 8pin RJ45, but the phone circuit is on the center pair so picked up by either) so you will need an RJ12<>RJ12 cable at the ont to provision the phone circuit, the RJ12 plug will happily slot into the phone socket of the adaptor. For the ethernet circuit at the ONT a standard data RJ45<>RJ45 is required between the ONT and adaptor.

 

At the comms cupboard, again a standard data RJ45<>RJ45 cable between the computer port of the adaptor and the router, and depending on whats in the comms cupboard you can also use a RJ45<>RJ45 data cable to patch the phone circuit to the kitchen assuming there is a full "data" RJ45 socket in the kitchen, and then a RJ45<>RJ12 to the phone base station. Hope that makes sense.

 

The key thing here is that the phone circuit is carried on the centre pins of the sockets, therefore will be picked up by both an RJ45 (8pin data) or a 4/6pin RJ12 plug. The ONT phone socket and the phone will have RJ12 sockets, and you can plug an RJ12 into a phone serviced RJ45 socket on the adaptors etc, so you need to take that into account. Just remember that an RJ12 will happily plug into an RJ45 socket, but an RJ45 plug will not plug into an RJ12 socket on the ONT or phone

 

Cyril

 

 

Perfect - Thanks heaps for the help and suggestion. Will give this a go :)

 

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  Reply # 2114051 25-Oct-2018 20:28
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Thanks to everyone else for all their helpful suggestions/comments. Has given me a few ideas which I'll try this weekend and should allow them to stay with Spark :)

 

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  Reply # 2114090 25-Oct-2018 21:02
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Also as mentioned above with the splitter it will reduce the ONT to Router speed to 100Mbps. This will equate to 90-95Mbps actual throughput speed. Doesn't sound like that will be an issues, just a heads up really in case you come back asking why you're not getting the full 100Mbps.

 

 





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  Reply # 2114093 25-Oct-2018 21:04
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See if there doesn't happen to be a POTS line running past there..

 

 

 

you might find you can splice into it and link up something in the garrage

 

 





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  Reply # 2114901 27-Oct-2018 12:55
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Ask Spark to provide one of their Huawei B315 modems. And provide the voice using that modem and 4G wireless.

Since that modem uses 4G for its uplink, you can place it anywhere that has 4G reception.





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  Reply # 2114955 27-Oct-2018 15:06
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Aredwood: Ask Spark to provide one of their Huawei B315 modems. And provide the voice using that modem and 4G wireless.

Since that modem uses 4G for its uplink, you can place it anywhere that has 4G reception.


There is a voice only option...




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  Reply # 2115110 27-Oct-2018 19:01
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Jiriteach:

 

cyril7:

 

Hi, yes that is correct, just be aware that the phone socket on the ONT will be an RJ12 (ie 4/6pin RJ connector, not an 8pin RJ45, but the phone circuit is on the center pair so picked up by either) so you will need an RJ12<>RJ12 cable at the ont to provision the phone circuit, the RJ12 plug will happily slot into the phone socket of the adaptor. For the ethernet circuit at the ONT a standard data RJ45<>RJ45 is required between the ONT and adaptor.

 

At the comms cupboard, again a standard data RJ45<>RJ45 cable between the computer port of the adaptor and the router, and depending on whats in the comms cupboard you can also use a RJ45<>RJ45 data cable to patch the phone circuit to the kitchen assuming there is a full "data" RJ45 socket in the kitchen, and then a RJ45<>RJ12 to the phone base station. Hope that makes sense.

 

The key thing here is that the phone circuit is carried on the centre pins of the sockets, therefore will be picked up by both an RJ45 (8pin data) or a 4/6pin RJ12 plug. The ONT phone socket and the phone will have RJ12 sockets, and you can plug an RJ12 into a phone serviced RJ45 socket on the adaptors etc, so you need to take that into account. Just remember that an RJ12 will happily plug into an RJ45 socket, but an RJ45 plug will not plug into an RJ12 socket on the ONT or phone

 

Cyril

 

 

Perfect - Thanks heaps for the help and suggestion. Will give this a go :)

 

Cheers

 

 

Hey All - Been trying this earlier but running into a problem. Installed 2x RJ-45 Dual Adapter (1x UTP, 1x Ph) on either end.

 

Have the phone working OK and its patched to the kitchen and working. So going from the ONT - Adapter - THE ONE CABLE FROM GARAGE TO CUPBOARD - ADAPTER and then patched to kitchen.

 

Same above configuration for the internet link BUT for some reason the Spark Router won't pick up a link on the WAN port? Tried multiple cables etc. I know the adapters as working as if I plug cable that should be going into WAN into LAN1 - link lights come up fine.

 

Plugging into WAN - no link, no lights, no internet. Testing things on PC - Router says there is no cable plugged into the WAN port. 

 

Looks like a setting or configuration of the WAN port but I cannot see anywhere to change this in the admin interface. 

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks


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  Reply # 2115118 27-Oct-2018 19:26
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Do you have a basic 100mb/s switch try that on the router input, ie between the ont and wan of the router.

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  Reply # 2115137 27-Oct-2018 19:41
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cyril7: Do you have a basic 100mb/s switch try that on the router input, ie between the ont and wan of the router.

Cyril

 

Thanks - Not easily accessible but will see what I can do. 

 

Im pretty sure this amended cable setup is working (well telephone is) - looks like a link aggregation issue either on the ONT side or Spark Router expecting gig? a 100mb switch in-between could work. Just need to find one.

 

Thanks


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  Reply # 2115138 27-Oct-2018 19:44
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Hi, I suspect its a links speed negotiation issue between the router and the ONT, its not common but I have seen it before, even an old router sitting around connect the two ends via the lan.

 

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  Reply # 2115226 27-Oct-2018 22:06
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cyril7:

 

Hi, I suspect its a links speed negotiation issue between the router and the ONT, its not common but I have seen it before, even an old router sitting around connect the two ends via the lan.

 

Cyril

 

 

Indeed and it was! Found a Vodafone router lying around and have that running between the Spark router and ONT and works perfectly. Will switch it out for a 10/100 switch which are ~ $20 from PB tomorrow.

Speed tests are showing ~ 95-96mbps which is impressive and good enough.

Happy that the parents can stay with Spark and things are worked perfectly and they actually don't notice any difference since they were on a 100mb plan anyways!

Thanks for everyones help and suggestions and especially so your advice @cyril7.


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