Spark Wifi Calling imminent?

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#2966390 12-Sep-2022 21:13

On Samsung devices it would seem that it's a setting that is enabled by the end user, so it's not like it's gonna be automatically activated resulting in a flood of complaints.

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gajan

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#2966393 12-Sep-2022 21:29

grolschie: Why not just let devices that already have VoWIFI support have access now then? i.e. devices originating from other carriers where the original carrier has authorized VoWIFI in the firmware already?

Because - that's not the way it works - it has to be enabled on the device per carrier. Some grey market devices may enable VoWiFi functionality across the board, but you mileage will vary.

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Bazil

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#2966396 12-Sep-2022 21:34

gajan:
Because - that's not the way it works - it has to be enabled on the device per carrier. Some grey market devices may enable VoWiFi functionality across the board, but you mileage will vary.

Out of curiosity, my pixel 4a has vowifi + VoLTE forced on via root. Works fine with VoLTE (skinny) but no vowifi. A device like this may or may not (YMMV) eventually be enabled?

grolschie

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#2966397 12-Sep-2022 21:35

I'm meaning if you have a phone with VoWIFI already enabled in the firmware by another carrier (e.g. a phone from Vodafone NZ) and are just waiting for Spark to allow you to access it.

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#2966399 12-Sep-2022 21:39

Bazil:

Out of curiosity, my pixel 4a has vowifi + VoLTE forced on via root. Works fine with VoLTE (skinny) but no vowifi. A device like this may or may not (YMMV) eventually be enabled?

Probably not is my guess given it's not an official build/update/config. I can't comment on any future official support either.

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gajan

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#2966400 12-Sep-2022 21:42

grolschie: I'm meaning if you have a phone with VoWIFI already enabled in the firmware by another carrier (e.g. a phone from Vodafone NZ) and are just waiting for Spark to allow you to access it.

I hear you - but no. the VoWiFi feature in your device, in your example has been enabled for a Vodafone NZ SIM, not when a Spark SIM is in use. The more modern handset OSes have the ability to store and utilise different carrier configurations depending on the SIM card being used and allow or disallow the appropriate settings. Hopefully that makes sense.

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pootie

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#2966401 12-Sep-2022 21:45

grolschie: I'm meaning if you have a phone with VoWIFI already enabled in the firmware by another carrier (e.g. a phone from Vodafone NZ) and are just waiting for Spark to allow you to access it.

Most devices apply the settings based on the SIM / IMSI. So the features it supports & exposes in the UI are based on which carrier SIM you're using. On Spark, once your SIM is provisioned with VoLTE/VoWiFi, it will work on any device that has the correct config.

grolschie

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#2966402 12-Sep-2022 21:48

gajan:
grolschie: I'm meaning if you have a phone with VoWIFI already enabled in the firmware by another carrier (e.g. a phone from Vodafone NZ) and are just waiting for Spark to allow you to access it.

I hear you - but no. the VoWiFi feature in your device, in your example has been enabled for a Vodafone NZ SIM, not when a Spark SIM is in use. The more modern handset OSes have the ability to store and utilise different carrier configurations depending on the SIM card being used and allow or disallow the appropriate settings. Hopefully that makes sense.

Ok. Thanks for that.

grolschie

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#2966403 12-Sep-2022 21:51

pootie:
grolschie: I'm meaning if you have a phone with VoWIFI already enabled in the firmware by another carrier (e.g. a phone from Vodafone NZ) and are just waiting for Spark to allow you to access it.

Most devices apply the settings based on the SIM / IMSI. So the features it supports & exposes in the UI are based on which carrier SIM you're using. On Spark, once your SIM is provisioned with VoLTE/VoWiFi, it will work on any device that has the correct config.

Thanks for that.

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#2966441 13-Sep-2022 08:13

iOS 16 out this morning, can confirm after updating the option for Wifi Calling for both Spark and Skinny is present.

Can confirm with putting the phone on airplane mode and turning Wifi back on that it won't connect.

RunningMan

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#2966691 13-Sep-2022 15:42

grolschie: I'm meaning if you have a phone with VoWIFI already enabled in the firmware by another carrier (e.g. a phone from Vodafone NZ) and are just waiting for Spark to allow you to access it.

gajan:Because - that's not the way it works - it has to be enabled on the device per carrier. Some grey market devices may enable VoWiFi functionality across the board, but you mileage will vary.

Vodafone and Spark are different carriers.

henrytai

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#2966741 13-Sep-2022 17:02

DjShadow:
iOS 16 out this morning, can confirm after updating the option for Wifi Calling for both Spark and Skinny is present.

Can confirm with putting the phone on airplane mode and turning Wifi back on that it won't connect.

Same here. I have enabled Wi-Fi Calling but it’s not working for me yet.

panther2

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#2966756 13-Sep-2022 17:21

Maybe try something like this. I had the same issue with my S22+ not connecting to Vodafone. There's a setting for call preference but seems like it's hidden. I've just tried and my phone now connect to wifocalling by default. My work phone has operated like this by default out if the box.

Voice over Wi-Fi Calling Explained and Free app to force Android phones to use VoWiFi - Ausdroid

I also uninstalled the app after chaning the setting and it continues to apply the wifi calling preference over cell connection

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#2966838 13-Sep-2022 19:17

panther2:

Maybe try something like this. I had the same issue with my S22+ not connecting to Vodafone. There's a setting for call preference but seems like it's hidden. I've just tried and my phone now connect to wifocalling by default. My work phone has operated like this by default out if the box.

Voice over Wi-Fi Calling Explained and Free app to force Android phones to use VoWiFi - Ausdroid

I also uninstalled the app after chaning the setting and it continues to apply the wifi calling preference over cell connection

VoWiFi is a service primarily to provide connectivity where there is no or limited cellular coverage. Some handsets may be configured to prefer VoWiFi over cellular by default, but most will favour cellular if both are available. So even if your phone supports your carrier config and VoWiFi works, in most cases you're unlikely to notice or even be aware of VoWiFi if you spend most of your time in cellular coverage. Most Android devices allow users to choose cellular preferred vs VoWiFi preferred. The app you linked seems to just provide users access to that setting, if it's not already available on your phone. I doubt it will do anything to enable VoWiFi on devices that are not already supported.

Setting your phone to prefer VoWiFi is fine, but doesn't deliver any benefit if you have good cellular coverage (unless you're dodging that roaming bill) ;)

w2krules

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#2966903 14-Sep-2022 08:18

panther2:
Maybe try something like this. I had the same issue with my S22+ not connecting to Vodafone. There's a setting for call preference but seems like it's hidden. I've just tried and my phone now connect to wifocalling by default. My work phone has operated like this by default out if the box.

Voice over Wi-Fi Calling Explained and Free app to force Android phones to use VoWiFi - Ausdroid

I also uninstalled the app after chaning the setting and it continues to apply the wifi calling preference over cell connection

Thanks, I had noticed that it only changes to VoWiFi if VoLTE isn't displayed. That is different behaviour to the S20 and my wife's Xiaomi, which both default to VoWiFi if connected to WiFi.

I'm happy with that, as the value of VoWiFi is when there's a poor cellular signal.

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