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# 209214 25-Apr-2009 12:58

harrylin: I'm so happy that telecom finally gone to Gsm.

AGAIN: Telecom is not going GSM. Telecom is going WCDMA. GSM is an old standard and current GSM operators will have to move to WCDMA sooner or later - their only problem is that the majority of phones are GSM only, not 3G.

This means Telecom starts with a brand new network, not tied to the old technologies, ensuring everyone gets to use the correct handset from the start.

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# 209217 25-Apr-2009 13:01

harrylin: I'm so happy that telecom finally gone to Gsm.

The new network that Telecom will be releasing is a WCDMA network, not GSM. Phones that cannot do 850mhz WCDMA will not be able to connect to it.

This includes all GSM only phones, like the first generation iPhone (the 3G iPhone should work ok though).

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# 209236 25-Apr-2009 14:49

They should probably also differentiate between "available" coverage, and "supported" coverage. Until ALL of Vodafone's handsets support their "97% coverage" 900Mhz , it's a fairly meaningless claim. Most consumers won't be aware there's a difference, assuming that "3G" is "3G".

The same holds true for Telecom obviously in relation to coverage vs support of their specific models/frequencies.

Omission of this information by either company is leaning somewhat towards false advertising IMO. If not, then it's certainly misleading.

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# 209244 25-Apr-2009 15:31

stevenz:
The same holds true for Telecom obviously in relation to coverage vs support of their specific models/frequencies.

Omission of this information by either company is leaning somewhat towards false advertising IMO. If not, then it's certainly misleading.

All of Telecom's new WCDMA phones will support 850MHz UMTS and all of their current CDMA phones support 800MHz CDMA. Coverage wise, the same towers are being used in the majority of locations, so it should be the same.

Vodafone on the other hand...different story altogether...

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# 209274 25-Apr-2009 18:04

harrylin: I wanna smash my iPhone. Will buy a new phone the first day of its launch of xt. Can't wait!!!! And it took me 10 minutes to load the pages and 10 minutes to write this post on geekzone!!!

Have you actually read anybody's posts explaining what frequencies and techology Vodafone and Telecom are using?

I'd suggest you read some of these posts because uou seem to be completely unaware of this. If you were aware you would know that an existing 3G iPhone will work brilliantly on Telecom's new network.

Infact it will work far better than on Vodafone because the iPhone supports 850 3G whereas Vodafone's 3G network is dual 900/2100.

There is no need to buy a new handset.. unless of course your iPhone is the problem. I don't have any issues with Vodafone's 3G speeds, over the past month after the recent upgrades they are absolutely billiant.

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# 209285 25-Apr-2009 18:36

I have known that for a long long time Steve. My iphone is not powerful enough for me though. And I know the iPhone will definitely work much better on xt. I'm using iPhone on 2G now. It's like driving a Ferrari on a 50k/h road instead of motorway. It was a mistake for me to dump WM for Iphone, now I have already been stuck with 2g for 2 months on Voda. It's devastating for me, a heavy mobile data user on the go. I will go back to my trusted WM after the launch of xt network. iPhone will be a part of my memory, it's the most beautiful phone I have ever used....

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# 209289 25-Apr-2009 18:50

I have known network frequency for a long long time. If I don't know that, I wouldn't be a high end smartphone user who has owned treo 650 700wx 750v, htc Titan, okra touch, nokia n93, iPhone 2g and now 3G. I wouldn't have bought a iPhone if it won't work on xt network.

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# 209299 25-Apr-2009 19:18

harrylin: I have known network frequency for a long long time. If I don't know that, I wouldn't be a high end smartphone user who has owned treo 650 700wx 750v, htc Titan, okra touch, nokia n93, iPhone 2g and now 3G. I wouldn't have bought a iPhone if it won't work on xt network.

So on one hand you're saying you've got an iPhone to use on XT and on the other hand you're saying you're sick of it and want to move back to a WM device. I'm confused.

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# 209308 25-Apr-2009 19:52

harrylin: I wanna smash my iPhone.

Can I have it?

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# 209378 26-Apr-2009 02:48

Is Telstra's Next G network WCDMA or GSM or both? I thought it was just WCDMA 850

I saw a comment about the HTC Touch HD running on the new Telstra Next G network. The phone's specs say WCDMA 900/2100.

So how is this phone running on their 850 WCDMA network? The review noted that the phone has been modified to run on the 850 network.

here's the link, scroll to the last paragraph at the bottom of the page:

http://wmpoweruser.com/?tag=htc-touch-hd

Can someone please clarify? I was keen on possibly this or the HTC Touch Pro 2 on the new XT network. Was wondering whether the same modification would make it work on Telecom's 850 WCDMA network

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# 209380 26-Apr-2009 04:51

johnr:
Vodafone 3G coverage foot print I would say is well over 85% of the population in the next 3 to 4 weeks it will reach 97%

John

Well, I'll believe it when I see it. On a recent road trip I had trouble getting a decent 3G data connection in a couple of towns in the Waikato (Huntly and Cambridge). There is still no 3G coverage on most of SH1 from Papakura to Hamilton.

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# 209386 26-Apr-2009 08:03

Next G is 100% 850 UMTS. Telstra also run a dual mode and tri band 900 GSM + 1800 GSM + 2100 UMTS network under the MobileNet brand.

The 2100 network was a joint rollout with 3 who (to make things really confusing) are merging with Vodafone.

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# 209388 26-Apr-2009 08:09

w2krules:
johnr:
Vodafone 3G coverage foot print I would say is well over 85% of the population in the next 3 to 4 weeks it will reach 97%

John

Well, I'll believe it when I see it.? On a recent road trip I had trouble getting a decent 3G data connection in a couple of towns in the Waikato (Huntly and Cambridge).? There is still no 3G coverage on most of SH1 from Papakura to Hamilton.

Clearly you don't have a device that works on 900mhz 3G Cambridge got 3G about 10 months ago the only place with no 3G between papakura to Hamilton is Huntly.

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# 209389 26-Apr-2009 08:21

w2krules:
johnr:
Vodafone 3G coverage foot print I would say is well over 85% of the population in the next 3 to 4 weeks it will reach 97%

John

Well, I'll believe it when I see it.? On a recent road trip I had trouble getting a decent 3G data connection in a couple of towns in the Waikato (Huntly and Cambridge).? There is still no 3G coverage on most of SH1 from Papakura to Hamilton.

Just further to this have you read the thread?

Do you understand the difference between 900mhz GSM / 900mhz UMTS?

What 3G device are you using? Make and Model

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# 209391 26-Apr-2009 08:39

No, please don't go off topic. This is not a Vodafone discussion. If needed please w2krules open a new discussion.

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