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  #213924 10-May-2009 21:29
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freitasm: AFAIK Vodafone doesn't offer A-GPS either.


Enabling A-GPS on my Vodafone / B+W phones has made a huge difference (GPS lock in 2-3 seconds usually) so I assume they do

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  #213926 10-May-2009 21:35
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scottjpalmer:
freitasm: AFAIK Vodafone doesn't offer A-GPS either.




Enabling A-GPS on my Vodafone / B+W phones has made a huge difference (GPS lock in 2-3 seconds usually) so I assume they do


As it does on the XT network. :-)

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  #213927 10-May-2009 21:37
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carlbamford: I hear Telecom will not be launching with GPS, do they ever think things through properly. Vodafone outshines Telecom in so many ways. This was their ideal opportunity to get it right and bring in the new consumers. Where are the new handsets, the stop watch is counting down and there is no info on pre-ordering handsets. Who is going to test the new network?? Hamster Hammond??


Carl as your first post you are not off to a great start. Everyone is entitled to their opinions of course but you appear to be quite misguided.

No new handsets until launch and therefore no pre-ordering would have been a calculated decision by marketing to build suspense and keep Vodafone out of the loop.

There have been a considerable number of staff testing the network for months plus a number of selected business people, celebrities, etc, around the country. You don't really think they would just have the hampster test it then launch it to the public do you?

This is a place to learn, ask questions, share opinions, etc but coming out guns blazing will not help make people want to help you nor make them want to engage in discussion with you.

You could start with an introduction post in this forum. Tell us a little about yourself and why you are here.



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  #213928 10-May-2009 21:38
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It made a massive difference on my N95 - but that uses supl.nokia.com or something, nothing to do with the telco at all




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  #213929 10-May-2009 21:38
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johnr: Telecom nor vodafone do not run a GPS network last time i checked



John


This post came out wrong voda does have A GPS on the mobile network they don't have a GPS network as in satalites.

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  #213930 10-May-2009 21:38
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Jeffthechef: As it does on the XT network. :-)


Ahh, good to hear. Must have been a simple flick of a switch was it? It was only last week or so NealR indicated it wasn't planned to be available.

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  #213931 10-May-2009 21:40
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richms: It made a massive difference on my N95 - but that uses supl.nokia.com or something, nothing to do with the telco at all




My understanding is the telco is feeding the info of which site(s) you are near and their gps co-ordinates back to the A-GPS system.



The phone has to somehow be told where on the globe you are, that is what A-GPS is.

EDIT: From this my understanding is the supl.nokia.com server will have the co-ordinates of the network's sites so when the phone says "Oi mister A-GPS server I can see this site and this site" the server replies "You are about x,y,z here"



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  #213933 10-May-2009 21:42
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scottjpalmer: No new handsets until launch and therefore no pre-ordering would have been a calculated decision by marketing to build suspense and keep Vodafone out of the loop.



And also for "instant gratification". By announcing the handsets and launching the network at the same time, you can make your decision and get the phone immediately.

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I believe there are the following GPS modes, all which can be combined together

Standalone - Satellites only

Triangulation - Uses cellphone towers to approximate your position

Assisted - contacts a server and does all that AGPS jazz.

Triangulation seems to work pretty good, gives 30s locks with my Okta Touch (no data connection).

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  #213985 11-May-2009 06:54
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The XT Network does NOT have Assisted GPS (A-GPS) available for launch. This does not prevent devices from utilising their inbuilt GPS capability.




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  #213987 11-May-2009 07:17
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Jeffthechef:
scottjpalmer:
freitasm: AFAIK Vodafone doesn't offer A-GPS either.


Enabling A-GPS on my Vodafone / B+W phones has made a huge difference (GPS lock in 2-3 seconds usually) so I assume they do


As it does on the XT network. :-)


Hmmmm, thanks NealR

Jeffthechef?

Is using the Nokia server somehow a get around for the actual netowrk not providing it's own server?

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  #213989 11-May-2009 07:23
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scottjpalmer: Is using the Nokia server somehow a get around for the actual netowrk not providing it's own server?



I have absolutely no knowledge of whether this is the case, but it's possible that Nokia has a database of tower IDs and approximate coordinates.

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  #213991 11-May-2009 07:25
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Behodar: I have absolutely no knowledge of whether this is the case, but it's possible that Nokia has a database of tower IDs and approximate coordinates.


That was what I was thinking . . .

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eXDee: I believe there are the following GPS modes, all which can be combined together

Standalone - Satellites only

Triangulation - Uses cellphone towers to approximate your position

Assisted - contacts a server and does all that AGPS jazz.

Triangulation seems to work pretty good, gives 30s locks with my Okta Touch (no data connection).


Hi eXDee -- what program are you using on your Okta Touch that utilises triangulation of cell towers to approximate your position?!

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Telecom doesn't offer cell triangulation in okta touch. I used google map but cell triangulation wasn't available on telecom network. How can he get that to work?..... Vodafone does support that though.

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