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  # 209690 27-Apr-2009 11:05
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13th Of May On wards I would imagine, I personally can't wait for my new handset or handsets to arrive!





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  # 209691 27-Apr-2009 11:06
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What happens with Datacards like T-Stick?

I suspect they don't work? and if not will Telecom release a new one

 
 
 
 




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# 209692 27-Apr-2009 11:07
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camo786: What happens with Datacards like T-Stick?

I suspect they don't work? and if not will Telecom release a new one


The current CDMA network will be active for a few years. They won't stop working on the 14th May.





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  # 209693 27-Apr-2009 11:07
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NeoTech: With the lack of signal strength here at home, I have some homework to do deciding to stay with VF or perhaps look at XT for stable service. It will all come down to what VF are doing around here with 900MHz UMTS (if anything). Working from home means cell service is important here also, not just while mobile. When I moved to VF I also had signal strength issues with Telecom, so it's always been an issue.



And moving house isn't an option!


I probably wouldn't expect either service to be dramatically better for reception to be honest, you may have to look outside of the box for solution?





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  # 209694 27-Apr-2009 11:08
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Bound to be a data offering at launch, TSTICK still a great option, the only difference is the new data device will be 3G or mobile broadband no matter where you are in coverage.





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  # 209695 27-Apr-2009 11:11
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bbman: I probably wouldn't expect either service to be dramatically better for reception to be honest, you may have to look outside of the box for solution?


You mean like an amplifier? or that NZ Comms site 100m away from me?

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  # 209696 27-Apr-2009 11:48
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i dont know about the new network but telecom sure hates amplifiers on its current netowrk




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matt45: good blog post!, can only pray people read it!

GRRRR hurry up apple with 3.0 and new iphone so i can buy it and port my number!!!


The situation regarding the new iPhone is making me very nervous. I have a bit of a theory about it:

The current iPhone 3G is being sold unlocked here in NZ, meaning it can work on any network. In almost every other country where it is sold, the device is locked to the carrier selling it.

What if Vodafone knew that the shelf-life for the current-generation iPhone 3G was such that it would be deleted from sale before the new Telecom network went live. What if they have subsequently secured an exclusive on the new iPhone rumoured to be launched in June, and this time they lock it to Vodafone?

What this would mean is that Telecom customers wanting an iPhone would be left with the last generation model, which they would have to source second-hand. If they then got hooked and decided they wanted the latest iPhone, they would have no choice but to switch to Vodafone.

Is it possible that Voda have been this shrewd and have engineered this from the outset?

So the decision is.... do you buy a current-gen iPhone now while you can still buy them brand new, or do you wait and risk Telecom not securing the device for the network, Vodafone securing it as an exclusive and locking to the Vodafone network only, and then having to buy a second-hand one.

I hate uncertainty!

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  # 209704 27-Apr-2009 12:05
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i highly doubt there will be a new iphone before june, however it does seem like an option for vodafone to lock them.

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  # 209705 27-Apr-2009 12:06
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Isn't it trivial to unlock an iPhone?

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  # 209706 27-Apr-2009 12:06
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steve98: The situation regarding the new iPhone is making me very nervous. I have a bit of a theory about it:

The current iPhone 3G is being sold unlocked here in NZ, meaning it can work on any network. In almost every other country where it is sold, the device is locked to the carrier selling it.

What if Vodafone knew that the shelf-life for the current-generation iPhone 3G was such that it would be deleted from sale before the new Telecom network went live. What if they have subsequently secured an exclusive on the new iPhone rumoured to be launched in June, and this time they lock it to Vodafone?

What this would mean is that Telecom customers wanting an iPhone would be left with the last generation model, which they would have to source second-hand. If they then got hooked and decided they wanted the latest iPhone, they would have no choice but to switch to Vodafone.

Is it possible that Voda have been this shrewd and have engineered this from the outset?

So the decision is.... do you buy a current-gen iPhone now while you can still buy them brand new, or do you wait and risk Telecom not securing the device for the network, Vodafone securing it as an exclusive and locking to the Vodafone network only, and then having to buy a second-hand one.

I hate uncertainty!


Is it possible Telecom (XT Network) will negotiate with Apple to supply a model fitting their network though?

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NeoTech:

Is it possible Telecom (XT Network) will negotiate with Apple to supply a model fitting their network though?


Yes its possible... but what if they don't? Then we could be stuck with the situation I described. And no, it is not a trivial matter to unlock an iPhone. In fact, I'm pretty sure it was never fully achieved for the iPhone 3G. Even if it was achieved, you would always run the risk of being locked out again with the next firmware update. At best you'd have a phone that has to be hacked to work, and that's far from the ideal situation that exists with the current model.

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  # 209708 27-Apr-2009 12:12
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the current model fits telecoms network beter than it fits vodafones (if you ignore the whole unlocking issue)

as said above i also thought that the 3g was never fully unlocked (for the ones in the states etc).

and if there are unlocks created then that still limits the people who can do it to "geeks" or people that know "geeks" that will do it for them.

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  # 209710 27-Apr-2009 12:16
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matt45: the current model fits telecoms netowrk beter than it fits vodafones!!!


Yup we realise that matt45. You've missed the point of my post.

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  # 209711 27-Apr-2009 12:20
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steve98: Yes its possible... but what if they don't? Then we could be stuck with the situation I described. And no, it is not a trivial matter to unlock an iPhone. In fact, I'm pretty sure it was never fully achieved for the iPhone 3G. Even if it was achieved, you would always run the risk of being locked out again with the next firmware update. At best you'd have a phone that has to be hacked to work, and that's far from the ideal situation that exists with the current model.


Perhaps petition XT Network to go down this road? Although it's not something I'm waiting for, surely there'd be others wanting the new iPhone to run on XT. Otherwise I guess there's the option of stressful waiting, unable to sleep at night and firgetting to eat?
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