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bbman:
You cannot deny that there are still serious problems with Vodafones network at the moment some caused by Telecom many caused by Vodafone, I think this whole issue has highlighted some of them. Atleast Telecom wont be responsible for them come end of May which is good for all concerned.
sbiddle:bbman:
You cannot deny that there are still serious problems with Vodafones network at the moment some caused by Telecom many caused by Vodafone, I think this whole issue has highlighted some of them. Atleast Telecom wont be responsible for them come end of May which is good for all concerned.
I agree entirely. Vodafone's network has been poorly engineered in some respects and could be better. There are also other factors that have caused call dropping recently including their failed attempt to roll out AMR on their GSM network.
The issue here has nothing to do with that though - it's simply that Telecom publically denied causing interference and said they were doing nothing wrong. That's proven to be totally untrue.
Really makes you wonder whether yet again marketing, lawyers and PR people got in the way of engineers who obviously had been working for some time to resolve these issues and obviously had plans on how this would be done. How ironic that in the end it's the engineers who will be solving the issue?
sinner: Yes, it has been acknowledged that Telecom was affecting Vodafone's service. However, this doesn't equate to liability.
sbiddle:
The issue here has nothing to do with that though - it's simply that Telecom publically denied causing interference and said they were doing nothing wrong. That's proven to be totally untrue.
Telecom admitted that there was interference when they said that there was dispute over who pays for filters (unless I have that quote wrong).
I believe there were discussions between the two companies so there was no denial of interference issues.
An out of court settlement "proves" nothing.
sinner: Don't see the egg on faces for Telecom. The out of court settlement proves nothing. Yes, it has been acknowledged that Telecom was affecting Vodafone's service. However, this doesn't equate to liability.
Vodafone, to me, come out of this looking like chumps.
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Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries
catapulter: Hmmmm...
Nonetheless I will be interested to see what the press make of the whole thing in the next couple of days.
Fascinating...
jpollock: I still fail to see how anything has been "proven". We don't know the type of interference, or why it was causing problems. Both are necessary for any fault to be shown.
What we do know is that TNZ decided that it was cheaper to put a rush on adding more filters and delay a week than to argue about it.
walt12: The history of the Telecom-Vodafone relationship in this space is that there is very rarely only one side to blame. People should remember that for future reference before jumping to conclusions.
Neither side come out of this looking very good. Telecom because they brought forward their launch before the interference issues were finally resolved, and Vodafone because they ran to Court when clearly continued dialogue was the best way forward. In that sense, shame on both of them, another sorry chapter in NZ telecommunications.
Lets just all look forward now to the arrival of the new network, to some real competition once NZ Comms get off the ground, and the the ComCom driving termination rates lower ...
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