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kaboom
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  #227400 22-Jun-2009 15:44
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hey mate, i can understand what you feel. an ozzie mate of mine once told me nz public transport was 3rd world and i got pissed off at him even though i know its true.

so understand what you feel like.



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  #227427 22-Jun-2009 17:07
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bingothewonderdog: > is like comparing Vodafone with a F1 car...



ha, ha, ha, yeah, an F1 car that runs out of gas every five minutes ;-)


Yep that sounds about right

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  #227428 22-Jun-2009 17:08
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kaboom: hey mate, i can understand what you feel. an ozzie mate of mine once told me nz public transport was 3rd world and i got pissed off at him even though i know its true.



so understand what you feel like.


Esp in Auckland.....



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  #227451 22-Jun-2009 17:56
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llaw019: What i really dont like about it is that they choose a marketplace in Hong Kong which I am sure every city in every country have something similar and labelled it as not sophisticated giving the general public an overall picture of Hong Kong as a "non-sophisticated" marketplace. That is just so typical. Oh, an asian city? must be all dirty and crowded and not sophisticated.


Do you think it would've been more approriate to choose a market place in the Middle East somewhere? Russia? A market place in Europe maybe?

Its a MARKETPLACE! Who cares what country its in?! Its tongue in cheek advertising.  Have you not noticed that advertisements are designed to catch attention, provoke thought etc etc?
This ad has done just that and therefore it will be very successful for TCom.
Remember its all about brand recognition, and of course, saying that you can now reliably use your XT phone on many networks in countries you couldn't use your old CDMA TCom phone in.
Don't get offended.  Its an ad!

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  #227587 23-Jun-2009 01:21
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llaw019: What i really dont like about it is that they choose a marketplace in Hong Kong which I am sure every city in every country have something similar and labelled it as not sophisticated giving the general public an overall picture of Hong Kong as a "non-sophisticated" marketplace. That is just so typical. Oh, an asian city? must be all dirty and crowded and not sophisticated.


yes, they should have picked a country where the people wouldn't get so uptight about. sheesh



Seriously, what country should they have chosen then?  Given that you seem to think it is reasonable for you to get offended about your country being depicted as having a market place (OMG a market place, Oh Noes!), which country shouldn't get offended by showing that?  If they showed an australian market place, should Australians get offended?


Hope you can see how i feel by imginaing what you would think if you see New Zealand being misrepresented to the gerenal public by some overseas company which has no idea what a great country New Zealand actually is (Or that they actually know but choose to misrepresent it anyway).


I wouldn't care.  but this ad doesn't do that anyway.





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  #227623 23-Jun-2009 08:49
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** I think the evolution that this thread has become is bat-poo-crazy **

A market like that *anywhere* in the world is unsophisticated from the point of view that its not a typical place for technology to reign supreme.

It would be a bit PC and over-zealous in my opinion to suggest that it is in any way a racial slur, and to be considered offensive? Well... personally, here in New Zealand, I am proud of our 'basic' and 'unsophisticated' markets (e.g. Hawkes Bay Farmers Market as a prime example).

It's good exposure for a place like Hong Kong in my opinion, as my view of Hong Kong is actually centered around skyscrapers, technology, and big business. Now I have seen something a little more down-to-earth that could make me consider visiting as a tourist.







Indio
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  #227728 23-Jun-2009 17:21
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llaw019: Hope you can see how i feel by imginaing what you would think if you see New Zealand being misrepresented to the gerenal public by some overseas company which has no idea what a great country New Zealand actually is (Or that they actually know but choose to misrepresent it anyway).

Grow up!! We had an Italian car company taking the mickey out of the All Blacks haka 2 or 3 years ago in an ad where women did the haka, and only a few exception to it.....

It's advertising...

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  #227729 23-Jun-2009 17:27
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tonyhughes: ** I think the evolution that this thread has become is bat-poo-crazy **



I am sure I could think of something just as witty, but whats the point, you have summed it up nicely.


As far as the advert goes, they got what they wanted... people to talk about it. [/contribution to this thread]

kaboom
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  #227865 24-Jun-2009 09:09
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Indio:
llaw019: Hope you can see how i feel by imginaing what you would think if you see New Zealand being misrepresented to the gerenal public by some overseas company which has no idea what a great country New Zealand actually is (Or that they actually know but choose to misrepresent it anyway).

Grow up!! We had an Italian car company taking the mickey out of the All Blacks haka 2 or 3 years ago in an ad where women did the haka, and only a few exception to it.....

It's advertising...



try asking a Maori or anyone who knows about Haka what they feel about women performing the Haka. You will find there are a lot more of us idiots who are passionate about who we are and how we are potrayed on TV.

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