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  # 241482 2-Aug-2009 17:06
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billgates:
ahmad: Not personally (coming soon) but I've seen poor comparisons on the 3G phone also.


100,000 XT 3G customers vs 500,000 VF 3G customers. Yeah that's a fair comparison!

Just wait for XT to get more customers and you will see those 3G speeds crashing down soon too.

And that's not the worst part, when Telecom eventually closes it CDMA network in 2012, all those customers will eventually move to XT as well and XT speeds on 3G will be even more slower.


Actually, just read johnr's reply on the first page of this discussion.






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  # 241490 2-Aug-2009 17:31
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johnr:
ahmad:This is not a 3GS only issue.


Sorry what testing have you done to prove this?

John

Help me here John.


I just reviewed the thread after what Mauricio posted.


In one breath you wrote:


johnr: Vodafone NZ is working with Apple to find out why this happening when iphone 3G are connected to the 2100mhz WCDMA network



Then in the next breath you ask:


johnr: Sorry what testing have you done to prove this?
in response to me saying that it is not a problem isolated to the iPhone 3GS only.


Huh?? Plesae help me out here. I'm willing to be educated but what are you trying to say? First you say the iPhone 3G is affected, then you suggest I'm wrong when I say that both the iPhone 3G and 3GS are affected?


The iPhone 3G has been out for a year.


So why has this issue only just come up??

 
 
 
 


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freitasm:
billgates:
ahmad: Not personally (coming soon) but I've seen poor comparisons on the 3G phone also.


100,000 XT 3G customers vs 500,000 VF 3G customers. Yeah that's a fair comparison!

Just wait for XT to get more customers and you will see those 3G speeds crashing down soon too.

And that's not the worst part, when Telecom eventually closes it CDMA network in 2012, all those customers will eventually move to XT as well and XT speeds on 3G will be even more slower.


Actually, just read johnr's reply on the first page of this discussion.


I did read john's reply. My reply was in general slow speeds of VF that users are comparing with a brand new network XT and thinking it will last forever that way.




Do whatever you want to do man.

  



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  # 241499 2-Aug-2009 17:49
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billgates - Mauricio has already acknowledge this point either on the forums or on his blog.

The question is - are you happy to sit back and wait for 2012?

With number porting and prepaid or open term contracts, why the hell not use XT now?

The new slogan should be:

Proven to be much faster in more places at the current time in New Zealand, particularly if you are using an iPhone*


*Subject to change with the turnoff of CDMA network in 2012


Better?

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  # 241500 2-Aug-2009 17:51
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ahmad: billgates - Mauricio has already acknowledge this point either on the forums or on his blog.

The question is - are you happy to sit back and wait for 2012?

With number porting and prepaid or open term contracts, why the hell not use XT now?

The new slogan should be:

"Proven to be much faster in more places at the current time in New Zealand, particularly if you are using an iPhone".

Better?


Telecom NZ can not use the iphone brand

iphone is not the only phone for sale in the world

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  # 241502 2-Aug-2009 17:53
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billgates:
freitasm:
billgates:
ahmad: Not personally (coming soon) but I've seen poor comparisons on the 3G phone also.


100,000 XT 3G customers vs 500,000 VF 3G customers. Yeah that's a fair comparison!

Just wait for XT to get more customers and you will see those 3G speeds crashing down soon too.

And that's not the worst part, when Telecom eventually closes it CDMA network in 2012, all those customers will eventually move to XT as well and XT speeds on 3G will be even more slower.


Actually, just read johnr's reply on the first page of this discussion.


I did read john's reply. My reply was in general slow speeds of VF that users are comparing with a brand new network XT and thinking it will last forever that way.


FWIW I see a lot of people complaining about iPhone speeds, but in general the complaints about other handsets' speeds have been less or non-existant in my experience. So no, I don't think you hold it true.
As it is, this is a specific problem, and there's action being taken. In this case I wouldn't complain about Vodafone.






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  # 241503 2-Aug-2009 17:53
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What about my questions john?



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  # 241505 2-Aug-2009 18:00
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Mauricio your points are taken on board.

At the end of the day if an iPhone user wants speed now, then XT seems to offer it, and he or she isn't going to waste time caring if it is Apple or Vodafone's fault.

That's not a criticism of either Apple or Vodafone, merely an observation.

Mauricio am I correct in saying that the iPhone 3G AND 3GS are affected by these problems, and if so, why has it taken a year for us to issue a ticket with Apple regarding the iPhone 3G?

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