Telecom Big Time plan trouble thread

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Uber Geek

#304155 3-Mar-2010 20:30

That and game traffic to the states is severely shaped apparently. Freelancer is in the same boat. Perfect connection, sky-high ping and packet loss.

Sheagae

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Master Geek

#304158 3-Mar-2010 20:32

What is the need to shape gaming traffic? An hour of gaming is ~100 MB. Come on, you could download 1GB in that time with filesharing. Seems a bit unfair to be honest

l43a2

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#304159 3-Mar-2010 20:36

Sheagae: What is the need to shape gaming traffic? An hour of gaming is ~100 MB. Come on, you could download 1GB in that time with filesharing. Seems a bit unfair to be honest

yea doesnt make sense at all from that stand point.

DravidDavid

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Uber Geek

#304160 3-Mar-2010 20:39

l43a2:
Sheagae: What is the need to shape gaming traffic? An hour of gaming is ~100 MB. Come on, you could download 1GB in that time with filesharing. Seems a bit unfair to be honest

yea doesnt make sense at all from that stand point.

I thought it was because international traffic was expensive and games use the same kind of packet information/ports as filesharing would. That would mean the shaping servers would treat games like file sharing.

Other then that...It makes no sense.

simj2120

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Wannabe Geek

#304162 3-Mar-2010 20:41

l43a2:
simj2120:
l43a2:
simj2120: Hi everyone,

I made a little you tube video of my last nights wow effort. Took me 20 minutes game time and several disconnections to actually repair my little fella's gear and be able to see my mail. I would have hate to see what it was like doing a 5 or 10 man!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P53zitb4TQM
(Not a very impressive video but it does show you what 5-7 odd minutes of game time is like for me on big time. If I recorded a 3 hour video, it would be 3 hours worth of this movie.)

Also did a quick speed test and I noticed a ping test that I had not yet tried before. Gave that a go, not sure how accurate this test is. But let me just tell you that if that resembles anything like my connection on big time I can see my problems. Ran it 3 times this was the best I got

if you dont like bigtime get off of it an move to another plan, its as simple as that.

I think you will find it is as simple as this

If you arn't here to help, get out!

If you arn't here to talk about issues that this thread was opened for, get out!

Oh and boo hoo to you with your 300 ping. I feel sorry for the people that wasted there time trying to help you when you do not offer the same courtesy.

as quoted from telecoms own website

When the network is busy (generally inside the hours of 9am and 2am) you may notice reduced speeds, in particular you are likely to see reduced speeds in relation to file sharing traffic and online gaming.

Ok I will try to determine if your cut and paste is even remotely relevant. I will accept telecoms statement if it has concistency in its core.

Doozy as I have read, you yourself are a world of warcraft player? May I please borrow a moment of your time and ask you what your ping is like in world of warcraft at the moment?

doozy

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#304163 3-Mar-2010 20:42

Sheagae: What is the need to shape gaming traffic? An hour of gaming is ~100 MB. Come on, you could download 1GB in that time with filesharing. Seems a bit unfair to be honest

Unfortunately it's not like there is a radio button or drop down box that says 'do not shape gaming traffic' its difficult, it requires lots of time, testing and in some cases cooperation from whoever is hosting. Where it is possible, we do exclude it. As it has been pointed out we do say its probably not the best plan to be on if you want to game. Fortunately, there's a few people at Telecom (who must be sick of hearing me talk about gaming by now) that do give me some time to help out, can't keep on top of them all though sorry.

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simj2120

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Wannabe Geek

#304173 3-Mar-2010 20:52

doozy:
Sheagae: What is the need to shape gaming traffic? An hour of gaming is ~100 MB. Come on, you could download 1GB in that time with filesharing. Seems a bit unfair to be honest

Unfortunately it's not like there is a radio button or drop down box that says 'do not shape gaming traffic' its difficult, it requires lots of time, testing and in some cases cooperation from whoever is hosting. Where it is possible, we do exclude it. As it has been pointed out we do say its probably not the best plan to be on if you want to game. Fortunately, there's a few people at Telecom (who must be sick of hearing me talk about gaming by now) that do give me some time to help out, can't keep on top of them all though sorry.

Fair response doozy, don't worry about my previous request. As it sounds, it's not going to help my problems and you seem like your busy enough.

Cheers,

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Sheagae

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Master Geek

#304175 3-Mar-2010 20:53

My reply seemed to have disappeared. Guess it was shaped to the extent it was lost. jk ;)

Anyways, I was saying: xbox live for instance uses 3 main ports, as far as I understand. Can the traffic shaping system see these ports coming through and not shape them?

doozy

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#304178 3-Mar-2010 20:57

Sheagae: My reply seemed to have disappeared. Guess it was shaped to the extent it was lost. jk ;)

Anyways, I was saying: xbox live for instance uses 3 main ports, as far as I understand. Can the traffic shaping system see these ports coming through and not shape them?

It's probably possible to do that ... I would give your mates over at gpforums about an hour before they figured out how to exploit it, so, again, its not that easy ;)

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Sheagae

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Master Geek

#304179 3-Mar-2010 20:58

doozy:
Sheagae: My reply seemed to have disappeared. Guess it was shaped to the extent it was lost. jk ;)

Anyways, I was saying: xbox live for instance uses 3 main ports, as far as I understand. Can the traffic shaping system see these ports coming through and not shape them?

It's probably possible to do that ... I would give your mates over at gpforums about an hour before they figured out how to exploit it, so, again, its not that easy ;)

Always a cat and mouse game eh? It's just depressing to know there are people pulling in up to a couple terabytes of data per month, meanwhile something as low usage such as casual gaming can't even function properly.

DravidDavid

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Uber Geek

#304182 3-Mar-2010 21:09

They have to run out of disk space sometime. I would be happy if VoIP worked at a decent rate for once. I drop out every minute or so.

ottenpat

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Master Geek

#304189 3-Mar-2010 21:22

On TVNZ OnDemand

I had basically given up on this service on bigtime but based on the comments tonight I thought I would try it again.

The service is now working perfectly for me.(tried on three different programmes)

There was no lag and no buffering

Good result!

ArcticSilver

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Ultimate Geek

#304191 3-Mar-2010 21:23

Working with port shaping is no easy matter, once one is unleashed suddenly everyones torrenting clients will be going through the opening.

Either way, I am very happy with the plan and even happier to see Doozy's forum precense.

Its helped improve a lot about the plan since day one.

Ironically i probibly only use 40~GB's on the plan so i could be elsewhere, though i love being able to download without a second thought, without a worry about that cap.

DravidDavid

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Uber Geek

#304243 4-Mar-2010 00:06

Not sure about anyone else, but I just tried the ubuntu torrent again and I have had the best speeds during peak times ever!

I am hitting between 280KB/s to 640KB/s

A positive result!

Ottenpat, what video did you try? Could you possibly give me the exact show you where watching so I can try it out? TVNZ still performs poorly for me :( Which is weird, because uTorrent is flying right now!

exportgoldman

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#304266 4-Mar-2010 08:33

doozy:
l43a2:

TVNZ uses citylink which telecom doesnt peer with, so all TVNZ content for telecom customers comes via the USA i believe.

Ohhh l43a2, do I have some news for you, its slightly OT but relates to this, Telecom DOES peer at a couple of national locations for TVNZ content now, there's still a little work to do before its all 'working as intended', but its there ;)

Thankyou to you and Telecom for what appears like steps towards a rational peering strategy :-) This has been nuts for far too long. e-cast and other will be very happy.

Also I would like to say I've been on Big Time since launch and put a Big Time connection in at work for DHCP users and have had no problems, the staff at work find it faster than the $200 2Megabit TelstraClear connection.

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