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clark007e
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  #313265 30-Mar-2010 23:57
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I've been having issues, Tried to download the facebook photo exe and it kept timing out. Gmail is timing out. Xbox Live has been doing odd things, others on big time have complained about xbl aswell.

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tamulmol
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  #313270 31-Mar-2010 00:00
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International traffic is very slow again. -:( Looks like a global gateway issue :(

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  #313276 31-Mar-2010 00:08
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clark007e: I've been having issues, Tried to download the facebook photo exe and it kept timing out. Gmail is timing out. Xbox Live has been doing odd things, others on big time have complained about xbl aswell.


It's not just  BT mate:




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  #313301 31-Mar-2010 06:30
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Hey ppl,

On Big Time and for the most part enjoying it, but have a question, Does the traffic management extend to National traffic?




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DravidDavid
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  #313384 31-Mar-2010 10:09
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crazed: Hey ppl,

On Big Time and for the most part enjoying it, but have a question, Does the traffic management extend to National traffic?

Yes.

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  #313408 31-Mar-2010 10:58
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DravidDavid:
crazed: Hey ppl,

On Big Time and for the most part enjoying it, but have a question, Does the traffic management extend to National traffic?

Yes.


Not in my experience. 

Pretty sure the traffic management is done in / at the edge of Global Gateway International network, not the domestic part of the network.

Note that some "local" traffic is not actually local traffic and comes from US servers/mirrors because not every content provider interconnects with Telecom (or Telstra who interconnect with Telecom) and Telecom don't peer at APE/WIX.  The classic example is Citylink who host stuff like TVNZ on demand.

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  #313413 31-Mar-2010 11:08
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ArranH: Gmail is timing out for me, which is something I haven't experienced since I left Vodafone :(


The issue with https for regular web/email usage ie: Gmail is pretty annoying.

Seems like a classic case of a rule to stop the really heavy downloads tearing it up with https downloads negatively affecting everyone who's just trying to read their email via the gmail website.




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  #313414 31-Mar-2010 11:11
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Ragnor:
ArranH: Gmail is timing out for me, which is something I haven't experienced since I left Vodafone :(


The issue with https for regular web/email usage ie: Gmail is pretty annoying.

Seems like a classic case of a rule to stop the really heavy downloads tearing it up with https downloads negatively affecting everyone who's just trying to read their email via the gmail website.



Yeah and even GMail via IMAP is over SSL so that is very slow too. I often get timeouts when connecting to GMail over IMAP.

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  #313467 31-Mar-2010 13:25
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In my experience, local traffic is shaped. But not all of it. I can still get 1MB/s from Australia if I download the right mirror of, say...a game demo or patch.

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  #313472 31-Mar-2010 13:38
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Ragnor:
DravidDavid:
crazed: Hey ppl,

On Big Time and for the most part enjoying it, but have a question, Does the traffic management extend to National traffic?

Yes.


Not in my experience. 

Pretty sure the traffic management is done in / at the edge of Global Gateway International network, not the domestic part of the network.

Note that some "local" traffic is not actually local traffic and comes from US servers/mirrors because not every content provider interconnects with Telecom (or Telstra who interconnect with Telecom) and Telecom don't peer at APE/WIX.  The classic example is Citylink who host stuff like TVNZ on demand.


By national traffic I'm refering to traffic associated to sites and servers hosted in ICONZ and Orcon's local Datacentre's. I know that other sites even though using NZ domains can be hosted overseas.




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  #313491 31-Mar-2010 15:04
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crazed:
By national traffic I'm refering to traffic associated to sites and servers hosted in ICONZ and Orcon's local Datacentre's. I know that other sites even though using NZ domains can be hosted overseas.


Any data center worth it's salt in NZ has multiple transit providers and interconnects directly with either Telecom or Telstraclear (remember Telstraclear and Telecom have an interconnect agreement).

I believe ICONZ are interconnected directly with Telecom at the the big data center in the sky tower, not sure about Orcon but I'm sure it's similar.






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  #313492 31-Mar-2010 15:06
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DravidDavid: In my experience, local traffic is shaped. But not all of it. I can still get 1MB/s from Australia if I download the right mirror of, say...a game demo or patch.


Huh, Australia isn't local traffic.

Download the 350MB test file from here, pretty sure it won't be shaped
http://zeus.jetstream.co.nz/

You could also try other speedtests hosted in NZ:
http://www.consumerspeedtest.org.nz/
http://www.nzdsl.co.nz/
http://www.xnet.co.nz/speedtest/
etc

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  #313519 31-Mar-2010 15:59
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Sorry, let me re-phrase what I was trying to say.

A lot of the stuff I have tried to download locally goes very slow. I tried to download Ad Aware from an Actrix server and it was dog slow. However, when I downloaded the Call of Duty 1.6 patch from an Australian server, I got a meg a second.

Telecom said ALL traffic is shaped, so I am guessing that means national too. But there are certain servers over-seas even from the states that don't seem to be effected by the shaping servers.

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  #313520 31-Mar-2010 16:01
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DravidDavid: Sorry, let me re-phrase what I was trying to say.

A lot of the stuff I have tried to download locally goes very slow. I tried to download Ad Aware from an Actrix server and it was dog slow. However, when I downloaded the Call of Duty 1.6 patch from an Australian server, I got a meg a second.

Telecom said ALL traffic is shaped, so I am guessing that means national too. But there are certain servers over-seas even from the states that don't seem to be effected by the shaping servers.


Could it be that we are talking about locally cached content here? More and more content is being locally cached by Xtra...

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  #313565 31-Mar-2010 17:40
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Flashcards:Could it be that we are talking about locally cached content here? More and more content is being locally cached by Xtra...


I thought it was only YouTube.

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