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  # 319415 16-Apr-2010 14:54
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I can't use VOIP or play my game so there is no trade off for losing being able to play my game. Was working fine 2 days ago and now I sit permanently at 2k MS.

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  # 319417 16-Apr-2010 15:15
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So... I've never used Steam before but heard its good from friends. I go buy Crysis online with Steam but its a 7 gig download and on Big Time im getting 10kB/s on Steam download.... I think while I download it I will go fill my bath with a straw and sitll have plenty of spare time before the games finished DLing!

Also, has the Aion lagging been fixed since Aion came out?

 
 
 
 


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Ultimate Geek


  # 319531 16-Apr-2010 22:07
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BenH: So... I've never used Steam before but heard its good from friends. I go buy Crysis online with Steam but its a 7 gig download and on Big Time im getting 10kB/s on Steam download.... I think while I download it I will go fill my bath with a straw and sitll have plenty of spare time before the games finished DLing!

Also, has the Aion lagging been fixed since Aion came out?


Aion's lag issue was fixed ages ago. There are other issues that can contrubute to this which is nothing to do with big time.




On another note, theres too many people here expecting everything for nothing. It was clearly stated it would be a shaped plan. You get fine speeds on off peek.

100KBps is perfectly acceptable!

Not being able to game/work is not.

To anyone complaining about 100KB/s i suggest you try and find a competeing plan, that you research ADSL and that you reserch NZ's internet enviroment.

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Master Geek


  # 319536 16-Apr-2010 22:16
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ArcticSilver:
BenH: So... I've never used Steam before but heard its good from friends. I go buy Crysis online with Steam but its a 7 gig download and on Big Time im getting 10kB/s on Steam download.... I think while I download it I will go fill my bath with a straw and sitll have plenty of spare time before the games finished DLing!

Also, has the Aion lagging been fixed since Aion came out?


Aion's lag issue was fixed ages ago. There are other issues that can contrubute to this which is nothing to do with big time.




On another note, theres too many people here expecting everything for nothing. It was clearly stated it would be a shaped plan. You get fine speeds on off peek.

100KBps is perfectly acceptable!

Not being able to game/work is not.

To anyone complaining about 100KB/s i suggest you try and find a competeing plan, that you research ADSL and that you reserch NZ's internet enviroment.


Um.... I think YOU should research Xtra's Big Time plan. The plan is traffic managed, yes. PEAK. I am getting (all of a sudden) slower than dialup speeds during off peak and On peak.


Nobody expects something for nothing - I expect my internet connection which up until yesterday morning had been performing great to be put back to the way it was.

Telecom have breached their aggreement in many ways in the past, and once again here. They even admitted to it today when I spoke to a Level 2 technician.

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Ultimate Geek


  # 319539 16-Apr-2010 22:20
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ArcticSilver:
100KBps is perfectly acceptable!


100KBps would be nice if I was getting that sort of speeds

2 Downloads running
1 - 35KB/S
2 - 7000B/S - its gonna finish in 15 hours for a 350mb file



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  # 319543 16-Apr-2010 22:26
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ArcticSilver:
BenH: So... I've never used Steam before but heard its good from friends. I go buy Crysis online with Steam but its a 7 gig download and on Big Time im getting 10kB/s on Steam download.... I think while I download it I will go fill my bath with a straw and sitll have plenty of spare time before the games finished DLing!

Also, has the Aion lagging been fixed since Aion came out?


Aion's lag issue was fixed ages ago. There are other issues that can contrubute to this which is nothing to do with big time.




On another note, theres too many people here expecting everything for nothing. It was clearly stated it would be a shaped plan. You get fine speeds on off peek.

100KBps is perfectly acceptable!

Not being able to game/work is not.

To anyone complaining about 100KB/s i suggest you try and find a competeing plan, that you research ADSL and that you reserch NZ's internet enviroment.


You forget most people are using Download Managers/Accelerators (DM) to achieve that.
But in most cases even with a DM some people can't even get 50kB/s.
Now that definately isn't acceptable

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  # 319545 16-Apr-2010 22:36
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ArcticSilver:
BenH: So... I've never used Steam before but heard its good from friends. I go buy Crysis online with Steam but its a 7 gig download and on Big Time im getting 10kB/s on Steam download.... I think while I download it I will go fill my bath with a straw and sitll have plenty of spare time before the games finished DLing!

Also, has the Aion lagging been fixed since Aion came out?


Aion's lag issue was fixed ages ago. There are other issues that can contrubute to this which is nothing to do with big time.




On another note, theres too many people here expecting everything for nothing. It was clearly stated it would be a shaped plan. You get fine speeds on off peek.

100KBps is perfectly acceptable!

Not being able to game/work is not.

To anyone complaining about 100KB/s i suggest you try and find a competeing plan, that you research ADSL and that you reserch NZ's internet enviroment.


Yeah..... maybe you should research what is happening before you blurt, try reading the thread for a start.

 
 
 
 


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  # 319548 16-Apr-2010 22:42
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mortiis33:
Um.... I think YOU should research Xtra's Big Time plan. The plan is traffic managed, yes. PEAK.


The plan is Traffic managed 24/7

Telecom website: Traffic Management - We don't place an artificial cap on the download or upload speed on the majority of the internet activity our customers have on this plan. But because it has no fixed data allowance, we do manage all the traffic on it to optimise the experience for everyone on the plan. When the network is busy (generally inside the hours of 9am and 2am) you may notice reduced speeds, in particular you are likely to see reduced speeds in relation to file sharing traffic and online gaming.


So that basically translates to "We manage all the traffic, all the time, when the network is busy we throttle file sharing traffic even more".



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  # 319549 16-Apr-2010 22:49
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Cymro:
mortiis33:
Um.... I think YOU should research Xtra's Big Time plan. The plan is traffic managed, yes. PEAK.


The plan is Traffic managed 24/7

Telecom website: Traffic Management - We don't place an artificial cap on the download or upload speed on the majority of the internet activity our customers have on this plan. But because it has no fixed data allowance, we do manage all the traffic on it to optimise the experience for everyone on the plan. When the network is busy (generally inside the hours of 9am and 2am) you may notice reduced speeds, in particular you are likely to see reduced speeds in relation to file sharing traffic and online gaming.


So that basically translates to "We manage all the traffic, all the time, when the network is busy we throttle file sharing traffic even more".




No... currently it seems it would mean

"We manage all the traffic, all the time, we throttle all traffic all the time, we feel it is better to make sure all parties are equally discriminated against (capped).

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  # 319559 16-Apr-2010 23:21
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mortiis33:
Um.... I think YOU should research Xtra's Big Time plan. The plan is traffic managed, yes. PEAK. I am getting (all of a sudden) slower than dialup speeds during off peak and On peak.


Nobody expects something for nothing - I expect my internet connection which up until yesterday morning had been performing great to be put back to the way it was.

Telecom have breached their aggreement in many ways in the past, and once again here. They even admitted to it today when I spoke to a Level 2 technician.


I never said that getting slower than dialup was ok. In fact I said it was not.

In my post I was specifically refering to those people complaining about 100KB/s.

skewt:
100KBps would be nice if I was getting that sort of speeds

2 Downloads running
1 - 35KB/S
2 - 7000B/S - its gonna finish in 15 hours for a 350mb file


I agree, it is not acceptable.

shiroshadows:
You forget most people are using Download Managers/Accelerators (DM) to achieve that.
But in most cases even with a DM some people can't even get 50kB/s.
Now that definately isn't acceptable


I dont forget that and yes that needs to be solved. 50KB/s is alright (in some cases) in my mind without a download manager, under that and its really pushing it because your going to cause issues with programs that only use 1 connection (ie i think steam uses 1 connection).

Kilack:
Yeah..... maybe you should research what is happening before you blurt, try reading the thread for a start.


I know all too well what is happening. Im also on the plan too.

All i was saying is that 100KB/s is fine! (for all those getting it).

I was not targeting anyone who is getting less than that.

I know others are having issues (I have some too) and no i dont think it is alright. I was only replying to those who were complaining about 100KB/s speeds.

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Master Geek


  # 319563 16-Apr-2010 23:28
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@ArticSilver

Ahh I see you were referring to those people.
I am man enough to say.. 'my bad' :P

But I'm sure their speeds have dropped to below 100kB/s
I was one of those people for the first few hours then it dropped down even more.
I am lucky enough to get 40-50kB/s with a DM

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  # 319590 17-Apr-2010 07:23
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Kilack:
Yeah..... maybe you should research what is happening before you blurt, try reading the thread for a start.


I know all too well what is happening. Im also on the plan too.

All i was saying is that 100KB/s is fine! (for all those getting it).

I was not targeting anyone who is getting less than that.

I know others are having issues (I have some too) and no i dont think it is alright. I was only replying to those who were complaining about 100KB/s speeds.


but that is the point isn't it, who are you to decide what is alright for a user? 100kbytes might not be enough for some of us, fair enough if its fine for you but please don't presume to know what is alright for everyone else.  I dont call a drop in speed of nine times "fine"
if it had been 100kbytes from the start then it would be a different story.

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  # 319620 17-Apr-2010 10:42
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Just joining this discussion now, so please forgive me if this has been addressed in the previous 91 pages. But I am having a really hard time downloading .torrent files. Most of the time they either time out or take hours to download, even tho the file might only be about 200k or less.

Once (and if) the .torrent file loads the torrent downloads file, although slow. Has anyone else seen this? If so, do we think it might be a deliberate move by Telecom to try and slow torrents starting all togeather?




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  # 319623 17-Apr-2010 10:54
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Adam, the way ive found to get around the fact that half the time the .torrent files dont even download on big time, is by using Demonoid and downloading the torrents as a txt file and importing them that way.

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  # 319703 17-Apr-2010 17:32
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adresdendoll: Adam, the way ive found to get around the fact that half the time the .torrent files dont even download on big time, is by using Demonoid and downloading the torrents as a txt file and importing them that way.


Demonoid is a private network, not everybody has access to it.

I've been having a similar issue, pmostly on public trackers. Private trackers work fine for the most part, only extremely slow when I'm already downloading.

Also, 100kb/s is fine for 90% of data. I DO have an issue with them limiting my HTTP to 100kb/s during offpeak, but not limiting bittorrent with the same restrictions. It basically means if I need a large file, I have to find a way to bittorrent it (and on a private tracker, since I almost never see over 50kb/s on a public).

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