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  # 268347 29-Oct-2009 22:37
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Hi Munchkin,

NZBNW has kindly offered to help me resolve my current issue. Thanks for offering also!




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  # 268348 29-Oct-2009 22:38
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No problem Smile




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  # 268406 30-Oct-2009 07:11
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nzbnw:
naggyman:

So you can change now.





Yes you can switch now and for Postpaid customer it’s fine due to Pro Rata billing (i.e. part month for TXT600 or whatever your old TXT plan was, and a part month for Non Stop TXT).

Prepaid however is a little different. Billing is based on a calendar month. Take your example, you have 100 TXT’s remaining, and by switching your TXT balance will re-set. Now you will be billed $0.20 per TXT until you have sent 60 TXT messages (i.e.  $12), with TXT’s after that at $0.00. Effectively that means you *could* pay $24 for this month. By waiting until the 1st, this ensures you will only pay $12.

At least thats my understanding of it all. 

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That is not true, I am on prepaid and switched in the middle of my text month. It switched over fine and I am not paying for each text, I can tell (I check my balance often + My balance is about $1 and I have texted about 20 times since switching).  




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  # 268511 30-Oct-2009 11:54
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exportgoldman:
sbiddle: What a bad, bad, bad, bad move...

The lessons from $10 TXT simply either haven't been learnt and it's obvious now that that XT has obviously failed to capture market share from Vodafone that had been hoped. The problem is $12 TXT isn't going to to do that either..


I have to disagree! We hve over 100% market pentration for mobile phones mainly because teenages are carrying around two mobile phones, one for Vodafone and one for Telecom. Very savy and price aware the kids are.

If you can capture the youth market, like Vodafone did 5+ years ago, and then grow the revenue per subscriber as they grow up and get jobs and make more calls from their single mobile then how is that not going to grow your bottom line?

I remember reading the debates from the commerce commission around 2 degrees and interconnect costs for TXT messages, and Telecom/Vodafone ended up paying close to nothing for interconnect TXT messages because they both sent around the same amount of messages to each others networks.

So it's not costing Telecom any real cash, they get more subscribers, and subscribers which are more likely to carry a single phone and have a higher average revenue per subscriber.

Maybe I'm completely wrong but I can only see it as a very savvy move, and capuring the youth market is something Telecom needs to do again to get on top. Vodafone has been king of this for a long time.



Problem is, being the only provider that is doing equal off/on net txting, that you will attract disproportionate number of people looking to send off net txts. This will unbalance the equation that ends with the telcos splitting the pot.


I think Telecom are looking to make a move on 2D more than VFNZ, as i think people shifted after the death of $10txt. They will attract share from all telcos however.


I think its a great move and once again should put the lid on this regulation shenanigans, and keep the ankle biters quiet.




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  # 268959 1-Nov-2009 10:00
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its prob not possibble for a human to send over 10k texts a month lol.




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  # 268966 1-Nov-2009 10:31
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Even at only 5000 texts a month.. is 166 texts a day.. Now removing the say 9 hours of sleep where there isnt any texting.. that's an average of 12 texts per hour over the remaining 15 hours..

Now you'd expect the number of texts during school/working hours over those 15 hours is reasonably minimal or reduced dramatically..

Which means that a fair majority of those texts will be mostly over say a 10 hour period...

How do these people manage it?? I suppose with teens and their abbreviated words and generally very short texts say 5 or less words, understandable. In saying that, whether you txt like that or not.. that's still a text sent every 3 minutes over a 10 hour period.. or every 5 minutes over 15 hours..

I always text in full words and almost always send a long text which gets sent as normally 2 or 3 texts.. I think my highest ever in a month is 1500 texts, which i havent done for some time.











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  # 268992 1-Nov-2009 13:07
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You are fogetting that lots of people text over the 160 chars which counts as multiple messages. Also if you have a chinese phone it halves its length because of the characterset being on that by default.




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  # 269012 1-Nov-2009 14:10
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From what I understand the fair usage policy would be looked at from the top 5% of telecom txt users.

$10 boost plan allows 2000 messages per month
Most who go over that by paying the extra 20c per message probably wouldnt spend more than an extra $20 so I am guessing the top high end on the cdma is currently 2,100 to 2,200 messages per month.

I guess you could probably double that and theres your fair use limit.




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  # 269025 1-Nov-2009 14:36
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my friends have two cdma phones, so when they've used up 2000 txts on one phone they top the other one up and use 2000 on that one. lol

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  # 269030 1-Nov-2009 14:52
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Lets do some hardcore university level calculations here.

Say you're awake 16 hours a day.

16 hours * 30 days * 60 minutes = 28,800 texts. That's how many you would send if you sent 1 a minute. Intense...

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  # 269034 1-Nov-2009 15:08
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except that with cdma doing several recipaints per text, people use it as a chat type thing between people too, which goes faster thru them




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  # 269148 2-Nov-2009 06:33
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anyway, this certainly beats $18 for 1500 texts, i mean, wtf was that plan even trying to do lol?




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  # 278240 1-Dec-2009 12:58
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Looks like Vodafone is trying to compete: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=51805

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  # 278413 1-Dec-2009 17:32
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and $12 on telecom is more like $10 in real money.

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  # 278417 1-Dec-2009 17:35
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real money... LOL





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