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Topic # 5607 11-Nov-2005 16:15
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Hi,
I've read thru the big thread about this, but didn't see these issues addressed.

The dictionary size on the 6255 appears to be extremely small. After 50-100 words have been added it drops words from the start of the list to allow later ones to be added.

The text message inbox and outbox are small and there's no facility to allow storage of messages on the memory card. When the inbox is full an a txt message is received, after you delete a mesasge in the inbox to make space for the new message, only sometimes is delivery of the message attempted again. I'm not sure if this is a 6255 specific problem or a general telecom network problem. I suspect the latter. Either way it's very frustrating as it gives no indication as to who the message came from.

Occasionally all settings (eg. storage of photo's on the memory card rather than phone memory, ringtones and backgrounds) will be lost from the phone, and some of the photos in the memory card will be replaced with the telecom logo.

These are in addition to all the other problems people seem to experience with the 6255.

This is my second 6255 after I gave the first one back after 3 days since it kept turning off. The new one has the latest firmware on it.

I feel completely ripped off after getting this phone, especially since the 6235 came out lacking only the memory card for $400 less.

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  Reply # 23110 13-Nov-2005 12:38
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Mr Melon:The text message inbox and outbox are small and there's no facility to allow storage of messages on the memory card. When the inbox is full an a txt message is received, after you delete a mesasge in the inbox to make space for the new message, only sometimes is delivery of the message attempted again. I'm not sure if this is a 6255 specific problem or a general telecom network problem. I suspect the latter. Either way it's very frustrating as it gives no indication as to who the message came from.


Try turning message overwriting on. this way when you inbox and sent items are full an incoming message will delete the oldest message from sent items. The phone can hold 100 messages which is a lot. deleting the templates will help as there are 10 of them.

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  Reply # 23169 14-Nov-2005 14:13
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Hey i also feel ripped of as i bought my 6255 and had to send it to usless telegistics after 17 days and then it was away for 2 weeks came back and it hadnt even been looked at! so it was away for a further month!!! and then i got a replacment :) which is good except i feel as if maybe i just want my money bak.
If u dont keep deleating your inbox then yes it wont send your messages to u, there is a setting that says que messages that i cant recive due to full inbox but i perosnlly dont think it works, its a telecom problem not jut this ph as my other 2 phs did the same u just wont recive ur message ever. and yeah that sucsk but defitly put on ur message overwrititng but then ull get a full inbox and it wont save ur sent messages urve still got to delete ur inbox .

Tell me when u take out ur battery and memory card does yours deleate all your settings ie ringtone , backgrounds etc as mine does and its EXTREMLY ANNOYING lol. also do you know how to turn off that camera soung that it makes wen u take a picture (its FAR to loud and annoying)
another thing i would love this phone to be able to do is when u recive a message for it to come up as: "Message from Lauren" in the small display instead of "one message recived"or when someone rings the same, crapper cheaper phs have this feature so why not this one???

On a positive note these phones are pretty great the mp3 player is mint and the battery seems to last ages wen playing music so its not all grumbles from me :)

 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 23170 14-Nov-2005 14:20
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Cheers brad05, that sounds like it'll sort the message queueing problem.

The memory card doesn't lose its contents when the battery is removed. There's an option in the camera settings to turn the camera sound off though.

I haven't bothered to use the phone as an mp3 player since dedicated mp3 players do a much better job, and the top headphone jack is only mono. Cant be bothered carrying around the connector to plug real headphones in the bottom.

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  Reply # 23171 14-Nov-2005 14:29
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oh sweet thakns lol (camera sound) no i dont mean the memory card i mean the settings on ur phone like having photos as ur backgrounds and songs as ur ringtones and message tone and alarm etc tehy all go bak to the default or blank when i take out battery / mem card.
how bout the small display features?



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  Reply # 23172 14-Nov-2005 14:33
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it's probably because the photos and songs you're using as backgrounds and tones are stored on the memory card, so if you take the memory card out and use the phone without it, then it'll still be trying to access them off the card but won't find them so it'll just give you blank backgrounds and no tones. If you took the card out, left the phone off and put it back in I'm sure they wouldn't be lost.

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Reply # 23174 14-Nov-2005 14:49
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Mr Melon: ripped off after getting this phone, especially since the 6235 came out lacking only the memory card for $400 less.

?? How about lacking the following ??

Bluetooth.
Stereo headphones.
MP3 Playing capability.
Two color LCD screens.
Not just the memory card itself, but the -capability- for a memory card.

All of these things cost money, and make serious differences to the feature level of the phone.

And your pricing sounds a bit off isnt there only $300 difference (open to correction - i havent checked).




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  Reply # 23176 14-Nov-2005 15:03
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Disenchanted:
Mr Melon: ripped off after getting this phone, especially since the 6235 came out lacking only the memory card for $400 less.

?? How about lacking the following ??

Bluetooth.
Stereo headphones.
MP3 Playing capability.
Two color LCD screens.
Not just the memory card itself, but the -capability- for a memory card.

All of these things cost money, and make serious differences to the feature level of the phone.

And your pricing sounds a bit off isnt there only $300 difference (open to correction - i havent checked).


The main reason I bought the 6255 was bluetooth capability. Just for synchronisation and photo transer really, which with hindsight it would have been much easier to just get a usb cable for the phone. Bluetooth support on my pc is flakey at the best of times. I can't fault the phone's bluetooth support though.

To use the stereo headphones you need to carry around and plug in the bigass connector on the bottom of the phone, and the headphones are crap anyway. Wouldn't the other nokia support this headphone connector? It's a standardised nokia plug that it uses isn't it?

The phone plays mp3s, but aren't there playlist problems? I find it much less hassle using a dedicated mp3 player instead of trying to upload a gig of mp3s to the phone over bluetooth...

The outside lcd screen is redundant. The time and message notifications are hard to read on it, and there's no battery status or any other useful information on it. If it cost them so much extra to implement, then maybe they should have flagged it since it hardly serves any useful purpose.

Memory card capability is all good, that's the only reason that I've decided to stick with this phone for now.

When I purchased this phone it was $699 and 2 weeks later the other phone was released at $299 which pissed me off as it still had the majority of useful features.. Basically I got the privilege of paying $400 more than I had to for a phone that was marginally better than the $300 competition for every day use.

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Reply # 23177 14-Nov-2005 15:17
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Mr Melon: The main reason I bought the 6255 was bluetooth capability. Just for synchronisation and photo transer really, which with hindsight it would have been much easier to just get a usb cable for the phone. Bluetooth support on my pc is flakey at the best of times. I can't fault the phone's bluetooth support though.

I guess that comes down to whether you need the wireless option. Automatic Bluetooth sync with outlook when in range is great. As is jump in the car and have the handsfree kit connect without having to lift a finger or even take the phone out of a pocket.

To use the stereo headphones you need to carry around and plug in the bigass connector on the bottom of the phone, and the headphones are crap anyway. Wouldn't the other nokia support this headphone connector? It's a standardised nokia plug that it uses isn't it?

I have an iPod, but when out for a 30 or 40min bike ride where i want to take my phone anyway, then this option is great... For anything else I use my ipod though.


The phone plays mp3s, but aren't there playlist problems?

Only for more than 200 songs i think??? I would never listen to more than 20 in a row on the phone.

I find it much less hassle using a dedicated mp3 player instead of trying to upload a gig of mp3s to the phone over bluetooth...

I just chuck MMC/SD cards into my printers card reader... Most Telecom retailers sell MMC/SD card readers for $25 odd dollars or Trademe has them for about half that price.

The outside lcd screen is redundant. The time and message notifications are hard to read on it, and there's no battery status or any other useful information on it. If it cost them so much extra to implement, then maybe they should have flagged it since it hardly serves any useful purpose.

I would never own a phone without an outside display - imagine opening the phone to check for new messages or battery/signal level (battery and signal level are clearly displayed on the outside screen of the 6255). I really think that people who own a flip phone that would be happier having no outside LCD would be the absolute minority... (personal opinion)

Memory card capability is all good, that's the only reason that I've decided to stick with this phone for now.


When I purchased this phone it was $699 and 2 weeks later the other phone was released at $299 which pissed me off as it still had the majority of useful features.. Basically I got the privilege of paying $400 more than I had to for a phone that was marginally better than the $300 competition for every day use.

Surely you only bought the 6255 becuase you percieved a need that it fulfilled, or some value in its price (or both). Any phone released afterwards at any price or specification doesnt diminish the value of what you got at the time you bought it. You might feel ripped off if you did the same thing now, but back when you bought it, it was the best option was it not? Dont feel bad...

Im sure no one wants a manufacturer or telco to stop releasing new phones and lowering prices to make existing users continue to feel good about the product they got or the price they paid.

Food for thought :-)




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  Reply # 23178 14-Nov-2005 15:29
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I did buy it because I thought that it would fill a need I had for a reliable phone with bluetooth which I could sync my calendar with and have the flexibility of data storage on the memory card. I wanted something that I knew had a reliable refined OS, and that was produced by a company with enough experience in the mobile phone industry to not make mistakes with their hardware or software. This is why I chose a Nokia over the competition. At $700 it was a real push to justify getting it, but the thought of having a phone which wouldn't have issues with the user interface, would be stable and well designed and bug free made me think that it would be worth it. It's now obvious it wasn't.

I just think it's substandard for a nokia product. Especially for the price they're asking for it. I just hope other people don't make the same mistake I did and buy one of these.

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  Reply # 23179 14-Nov-2005 15:32
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no no im not stupid i understand if the memory card isnt there then it cant show my songs but im tlaking bout just taking my mem card out leaving hte ph off and popping it bak in..... do u understand?? like without turning the phone on ud think it would stay



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  Reply # 23180 14-Nov-2005 15:37
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Lozz: no no im not stupid i understand if the memory card isnt there then it cant show my songs but im tlaking bout just taking my mem card out leaving hte ph off and popping it bak in..... do u understand?? like without turning the phone on ud think it would stay


Just did that with mine and it didn't lose any of the settings.

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Reply # 23181 14-Nov-2005 15:47
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grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr this phone sucks!!! thanks man

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  Reply # 23195 14-Nov-2005 19:39
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Theres a lot of posts here to digest. A few points to consider.....
1. the battery level is clearly displayed on the right side of external screen.
2. turning the phone off, pulling the memory card out and then putting it back will not cause you to lose anything provided you do not turn phone on before reinserting the card. trust me, ive just done it 5 times!!
3. for all those who are complaining about the phone just think of the features you are getting with it, phone, camera with video, bluetooth, mp3 player etc etc all those things rolled into one little device. it is really quite remarkable when you think about it.
4. the issues with the phone have largely been sorted out, there is no powering off problems with the V1700 software. and all the other things are really trivial, the current problem is one with the network and phone having a few interaction problems, which isnt the phones fault and it has only just started happening and will be sorted within a day or 2.

Sure the phone is not perfect but you could spend your money on a lot of worse products out there!!

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  Reply # 23473 17-Nov-2005 21:47
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Has anyone had problems with syncing with the outlook calandar ? I can sync ok but since we moved to daylight saving, all appointments are out by an hour. Have checked everything I can think of (both PC and phone) but have had no luck.

Despite having to have the latest firmware downloaded to stop excessive battery drain I love this phone, but the calandar issue is starting to drive me up the wall.

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  Reply # 23475 17-Nov-2005 21:58
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whats sync???? loli can check for u on mine but what is it

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