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Topic # 56836 25-Jan-2010 17:35
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I was just looking at Vodafone AU's website, at their prepay FlexiCaps.

Would it be completely absurd for me to think that Telecoms Prepay plan is somewhat similar to Vodafone AU's scheme?

As an example of what I mean:

If you pay $29 with Vodafone AU, you get $150.00 Flexi credit (which I assume means calling etc outside the Vodafone Network) + $150.00 Vodafone to Vodafone credit, totaling $300 worth of credit.

With Telecom NZ, if you pay $20 for a top up, you get the $20 + an extra $5 credit.

Obviously Telecom's one is more simplistically put, and of course you aren't getting the same amount of credit or whatever you would like to call it.

But if I am right in thinking they are similar, Does anyone here think that this could possibly become the norm here in NZ and expand into something bigger like in AU? or do you think this would just be confined to the prepay market and stay the same as what we already have?






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  Reply # 292948 25-Jan-2010 19:32
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it's a trend that has been going for a while in the UK and OZ, and Voda has started advertising their things similarly here too i.e. claiming that because TXT2000 is $10, and texts 'normally' cost 20c, you get $400 of value for only $10. OMG that is a 97.5% discount! what a bargain!






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  Reply # 292951 25-Jan-2010 19:36
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NonprayingMantis: it's a trend that has been going for a while in the UK and OZ, and Voda has started advertising their things similarly here too i.e. claiming that because TXT2000 is $10, and texts 'normally' cost 20c, you get $400 of value for only $10. OMG that is a 97.5% discount! what a bargain!





no, but there is a difference with that.

with Vodafone AU, you pay $29 and you get say $300 total credit. Which you can spend on what you like.

With Vodafone NZ, you pay $20, you get $20 credit. You buy an addon like txt2000, you get 2000 texts - you pay for it, even if you don't end up using it.


With the first option - you get $300 credit, for $29.

bit with the second one, you get $20 for $20 - No discount or bonus.


PS: feel free to correct me anyone.. I'm still thinking I might be confusing myself here.. lol.





 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 292961 25-Jan-2010 19:59
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I don't see anything really that similar between the pricing.

AU has bucket plans. You spend $29 and get (for example) $300 worth of value to use on whatever you want. You pay 28c for a SMS but in reality the costs can be 1/10th that.

Here you spend $30 and get $5 extra as a bonus. You're hardly getting 10x the value.

The bucket plans just hide higher calling rates. Australia has the highest SMS charges in the world, Vodafone AU charge A$ 28c for a SMS. Instead of any of the operators cutting those rates they simply increased the value customers got.




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  Reply # 292968 25-Jan-2010 20:07
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sbiddle: I don't see anything really that similar between the pricing.

AU has bucket plans. You spend $29 and get (for example) $300 worth of value to use on whatever you want. You pay 28c for a SMS but in reality the costs can be 1/10th that.

Here you spend $30 and get $5 extra as a bonus. You're hardly getting 10x the value.

The bucket plans just hide higher calling rates. Australia has the highest SMS charges in the world, Vodafone AU charge A$ 28c for a SMS. Instead of any of the operators cutting those rates they simply increased the value customers got.



Aha, you are dead right there!
My head obviously wasn't working right, thanks for clearing that up.


I guess thats what Vodafones plan was though - to confuse the customer into thinking they're getting more value :P





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  Reply # 292990 25-Jan-2010 21:33
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For those planning a visit across the ditch you can consider telstra pre-pay which has a couple of advantages especially for XT users.

You can put on extra add ons called 'plus packs' one handy one is $10 for 100mb data (expires in 30 days) the other is the international calling add on whcih gives for 40 minutes of calling to a bunch on countries including NZ landlines and mobiles for $20.

On top of that they have pre-paid offers of which you can choose only one at a time, there is a long life option where your credit wont expire for 6-12 months depending on the amount you top up, there are other deals for calls and text within oz too.

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  Reply # 293006 25-Jan-2010 22:17
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I haven't seen a NZ mobile operator offer a unlimited plan yet. Check out this offer by virgimobile in Aussie.

http://www.virginmobile.com.au/mobile-plans-pricing/monthly-plans/

Unlimited use calling all networks including 1GIG data for $AUD99 per month.

We've stripped our Topless plan down to nothing but incredible value.
The best bits

* Unlimited Standard Calls to GSM Mobiles in Oz
* Unlimited Standard Text to GSM Mobiles in Oz
* Unlimited Standard Local & National Calls in Oz
* Free Voicemail in Oz
* 1 GB Mobile Data#

Click or hover over the table for more details:

Or check out this unlimited offering by Tesco mobile in the UK.

http://www.tesco.com/mobilenetwork/paymonthly.aspx?page=5

Our new Unlimited tariff really does give you unlimited calls and texts for just ?30 a month. And with no long ties, just a one month commitment, it's really flexible.

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  Reply # 293011 25-Jan-2010 22:26
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ajw: I haven't seen a NZ mobile operator offer a unlimited plan yet. 




Unlimited usually doesn't mean unlimited, there is almost always a soft cap in the T's and C's.


Telecom DO however off this, however it would not appeal to most at $399+GST.


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  Reply # 293012 25-Jan-2010 22:33
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nzbnw:
ajw: I haven't seen a NZ mobile operator offer a unlimited plan yet. 




Unlimited usually doesn't mean unlimited, there is almost always a soft cap in the T's and C's.


Telecom DO however off this, however it would not appeal to most at $399+GST.


nzbnw






 

Still a lot cheaper than what mobile users are being ripped off here in NZ.

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  Reply # 293013 25-Jan-2010 22:35
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ajw: 

Still a lot cheaper than what mobile users are being ripped off here in NZ.
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O goodness, and yes the Australian public believe they are being ripped off too. I'm sure it's the same in the UK, USA greater Europe, and parts of Asia.


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  Reply # 293017 25-Jan-2010 22:47
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nzbnw:
ajw: 

Still a lot cheaper than what mobile users are being ripped off here in NZ.
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O goodness, and yes the Australian public believe they are being ripped off too. I'm sure it's the same in the UK, USA greater Europe, and parts of Asia.


nzbnw






Only problem is NZ is trying to play catch up with Australia, especially when it comes to wages and salaries. It never will. What about our third world power supply. How many hours today was Auckland without electricity. This is near third world reliability.

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  Reply # 293019 25-Jan-2010 22:52
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The caps in AU are confusing IMO. Better be cheaper and simpler like 2 degrees are trying for.




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  Reply # 293095 26-Jan-2010 10:41
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ajw:
nzbnw:
ajw: 

Still a lot cheaper than what mobile users are being ripped off here in NZ.
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O goodness, and yes the Australian public believe they are being ripped off too. I'm sure it's the same in the UK, USA greater Europe, and parts of Asia.


nzbnw






Only problem is NZ is trying to play catch up with Australia, especially when it comes to wages and salaries. It never will. What about our third world power supply. How many hours today was Auckland without electricity. This is near third world reliability.


No.  No it isn't.






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