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Topic # 58033 4-Mar-2010 23:42
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so google has their cache hosted by telecom right? so how much terabytes can the cache hold? 100TB? youtube allows each uploaded video to be up to 1GB in size.

if telecom hoped to save lots on international data costs by having the cache, it may work for a while but video streaming sites like ustream are becoming popular. youtube may offer streaming soon too.

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  Reply # 304872 5-Mar-2010 18:44
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seen Telecom own half the cable i don't see why it would cost them?





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  Reply # 304880 5-Mar-2010 19:05
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How long is a piece of String?


That is how big it is

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 304909 5-Mar-2010 21:22
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you dont need to cache all of youtube..... if you cached just the top 100 videos locally you would end up saving a bit of bandwidth




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  Reply # 305059 6-Mar-2010 17:35
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hamish225: seen Telecom own half the cable i don't see why it would cost them?


 

Telecom has been operationally separated.  Telecom Retail buys international bandwidth from TNZI (which is in the Telecom Wholesale camp) just like any other provider.  Telecom Retail must make a profit (I think the Comcom would be very interested if Telecom was selling Broadband below cost as this would impact competition).

 

That is why it is in Telecom Retail's interests to cache everything it can, just like every other ISP.




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  Reply # 305070 6-Mar-2010 19:51
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cbrpilot:
hamish225: seen Telecom own half the cable i don't see why it would cost them?


 

Telecom has been operationally separated.  Telecom Retail buys international bandwidth from TNZI (which is in the Telecom Wholesale camp) just like any other provider.  Telecom Retail must make a profit (I think the Comcom would be very interested if Telecom was selling Broadband below cost as this would impact competition).

 

That is why it is in Telecom Retail's interests to cache everything it can, just like every other ISP.


then why dont they just make the international bandwidth cheaper then? 





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  Reply # 305081 6-Mar-2010 21:25
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hamish225:

then why dont they just make the international bandwidth cheaper then? 



Who is "they"?
Telecom Retail?  Retail can't - it's not them that sets the prices.
TNZI/Wholesale?  They have (as below), but they still have to make money. They are responsible for their financial performance and making money for their shareholders like any other Broadband business in NZ.  What they charge for international is comparable with other providers in Australia (because that is their main market).  Australia has many International providers to chose from. 

Just for the record, TNZI's prices have come down significantly in the last few years (I don't know the exact numbers, but it has been (quietly) in the news - it's at least halved). Why do you think you can now get a 40+gig cap for reasonable now, when it was unthought of a few years ago? 




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  Reply # 305083 6-Mar-2010 21:28
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well then someone should hurry up and build a new cable with no shareholders. thats one way to keep the prices down right?





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  Reply # 305086 6-Mar-2010 21:31
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Because there are costs involved in operating international bandwidth? (Costs to maintain etc the SCC). Plus I imagine TNZI wants to make a profit too.



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  Reply # 305088 6-Mar-2010 21:34
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well maybe they should pay their executives less then if they want to make money.





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  Reply # 305090 6-Mar-2010 21:37
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Pay peanuts, get monkeys. Yes I agree there is some fat that needs to be cut. But there are still fixed costs that aren't wage costs involved.

Now, where do you propose the money to build a new intl cable is going to come from? If you have no shareholders, you probably have no capital. And I don't think banks will be keen to lend so much money for such a potentially risky operation with such potentially low returns. There is no unique selling point on it - we already have a perfectly good intl cable. Price differentiation does not count.

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  Reply # 305101 6-Mar-2010 21:53
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i think there does need to be some competition. and i dont know some big company? lol the goverment?





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  Reply # 305102 6-Mar-2010 21:57
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Funny you should mention the government:

Kordia (a state owned enterprise) is doing pretty much exactly that, although it has been delayed. See here

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