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#26400 13-Jan-2006 22:08

Ok then,

Vodafone’s wcdma is considered to be broadband yet I don’t see them making it a home broadband solution so why isn’t this happening. You want telecom to offer super cheap broadband why not write to the commerce commission and say you want voda to offer 1 GB cap for $30 a month. So I guess this makes voda greedy doesn’t it.

Im not getting at you. You need to look at it from the telecos point of view. Its all very well saying I want cheap broadband once it lowers you will then say I want if faster and cheaper again. Everyone want everything cheaper i.e. petrol is a classic example everyone moans about that but yet no action is taken because people are focusing on luxuries like broadband compared to power and petrol which are essentials which should be lowered. I think power has gone up 30% ish.... Ok then,


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Just thinking, is there any prize for moving up the OECD rankings?

If we move up the rankings will we be more attractive to tourists, businesses or a higher standard of living. Will issues around housing, poverty and crime be resolved if we achieve a higher ranking.

Or is the OECD rankings the corporate word for "the Jonses"

New Telcos "can" make money with ULL, building thier own networks would take 5-8 years or more I believe, before they see any profit.


From the movie Field of Dreams, "if you build it, they will come"

 
 
 
 


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#26415 14-Jan-2006 07:59
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The only hope we've ever got of LLU in New Zealand is a free trade agreement with the USA. It would then be a requirement for us to offer it as it's termed as anti-competitive!


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#26428 14-Jan-2006 17:34
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sbiddle: The only hope we've ever got of LLU in New Zealand is a free trade agreement with the USA. It would then be a requirement for us to offer it as it's termed as anti-competitive!


I remember TelstraClear focussing on that issue, amongst others, when the whole ULL debate was in full swing. However, an FTA with the USA won't happen to a sufficient extent with Labour in power, having said that National wouldn't be any better, neither party have any balls.

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#26430 14-Jan-2006 17:45
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Nz_Dude: Ok then,

Vodafone’s wcdma is considered to be broadband yet I don’t see them making it a home broadband solution so why isn’t this happening. You want telecom to offer super cheap broadband why not write to the commerce commission and say you want voda to offer 1 GB cap for $30 a month. So I guess this makes voda greedy doesn’t it.



Vodafones network is for mobile phone use, it's not designed for home broadband computer use so dont compare it with telecom.

If Vodafone owned the telephone lines and all the adsl exhcanges around the country, then you could blame them, but what you said makes no sense whatsoever.

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#26433 14-Jan-2006 17:55
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Nz_Dude: Ok then,

Vodafone’s wcdma is considered to be broadband yet I don’t see them making it a home broadband solution so why isn’t this happening. You want telecom to offer super cheap broadband why not write to the commerce commission and say you want voda to offer 1 GB cap for $30 a month. So I guess this makes voda greedy doesn’t it.



That's a very poor, irrelevant comparison IMHO, especially in the New Zealand market.

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#26438 14-Jan-2006 18:22
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simon_nz90:
Vodafones network is for mobile phone use, it's not designed for home broadband computer use so dont compare it with telecom.


Maybe you could tell Vodafone this - last year Vodafone Germany launched a home router with FXS interface so you can use Vodafone 3G as your broadband connection and hook up your home phones to a cellular gateway. Several other networks in Europe are all using the same device.


 
 
 
 


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#26442 14-Jan-2006 18:35
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sbiddle: Maybe you could tell Vodafone this - last year Vodafone Germany launched a home router with FXS interface so you can use Vodafone 3G as your broadband connection and hook up your home phones to a cellular gateway. Several other networks in Europe are all using the same device.
Or this Linksys box...





 

 

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#26445 14-Jan-2006 19:23
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freitasm:
Or this Linksys box...


Damn, that's a good idea. Although even when HSDPA is implemented, the latency will still be too high for online gaming. Please Note: :-) with regards to my online gaming comment.

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#26448 14-Jan-2006 19:46
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Certainly not for online gaming - but it's great for teams in a project when out of the office, consultants, etc... It can be used as an Internet access box for home users, but it's way more expensive than fixed line alternatives I think.





 

 

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#26449 14-Jan-2006 20:04
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freitasm: Certainly not for online gaming - but it's great for teams in a project when out of the office, consultants, etc... It can be used as an Internet access box for home users, but it's way more expensive than fixed line alternatives I think.


Most definately WAY more expensive, $149 for 1gig excluding GST to be exact with Vodafone.

However Telecom charge $99 for 400MB excluding GST! I agree for businesses, this would be a handy concept, with Vodafone currently being the cheapest for data.

But using this analogy in New Zealand, as an alternative to fixedline broadband, as Nz Dude has done is quite simply not appropriate right now.

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#26450 14-Jan-2006 20:10
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Just in case you need to know, Telecom New Zealand does have a box that acts as a CDMA EV-DO -> Wi-Fi router (exactly like the Vodafone one). I am trying to get one for review, but we used it already during the Geekzone Dinner here in Wellington - very handy (and faster)...





 

 

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#26451 14-Jan-2006 20:12
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freitasm: Just in case you need to know, Telecom New Zealand does have a box that acts as a CDMA EV-DO -> Wi-Fi router (exactly like the Vodafone one). I am trying to get one for review, but we used it already during the Geekzone Dinner here in Wellington - very handy (and faster)...


Also FAR more expensive, but thanks for information anyway.

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#26452 14-Jan-2006 20:15
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Grantis:
freitasm: Just in case you need to know, Telecom New Zealand does have a box that acts as a CDMA EV-DO -> Wi-Fi router (exactly like the Vodafone one). I am trying to get one for review, but we used it already during the Geekzone Dinner here in Wellington - very handy (and faster)...


Also FAR more expensive, but thanks for information anyway.
Yes, and no. Data is more expensive, but the network coverage and the fact that the fallback to 1xRTT is faster than the fallback to GPRS may be compelling reason to decide on one over another.

All in its own merit...





 

 

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#26453 14-Jan-2006 20:50
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freitasm:
sbiddle: Maybe you could tell Vodafone this - last year Vodafone Germany launched a home router with FXS interface so you can use Vodafone 3G as your broadband connection and hook up your home phones to a cellular gateway. Several other networks in Europe are all using the same device.
Or this Linksys box...



The Linksys box is data only though - not voice as well.

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