Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7


36 posts

Geek


Reply # 26400 13-Jan-2006 22:08

Ok then,

Vodafone’s wcdma is considered to be broadband yet I don’t see them making it a home broadband solution so why isn’t this happening. You want telecom to offer super cheap broadband why not write to the commerce commission and say you want voda to offer 1 GB cap for $30 a month. So I guess this makes voda greedy doesn’t it.

Im not getting at you. You need to look at it from the telecos point of view. Its all very well saying I want cheap broadband once it lowers you will then say I want if faster and cheaper again. Everyone want everything cheaper i.e. petrol is a classic example everyone moans about that but yet no action is taken because people are focusing on luxuries like broadband compared to power and petrol which are essentials which should be lowered. I think power has gone up 30% ish.... Ok then,


912 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 69


Reply # 26401 13-Jan-2006 22:13
Send private message

Just thinking, is there any prize for moving up the OECD rankings?

If we move up the rankings will we be more attractive to tourists, businesses or a higher standard of living. Will issues around housing, poverty and crime be resolved if we achieve a higher ranking.

Or is the OECD rankings the corporate word for "the Jonses"

New Telcos "can" make money with ULL, building thier own networks would take 5-8 years or more I believe, before they see any profit.


From the movie Field of Dreams, "if you build it, they will come"




Gravity is a myth.....The Earth Sucks!

 
 
 
 


25454 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5268

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Subscriber

Reply # 26415 14-Jan-2006 07:59
Send private message

The only hope we've ever got of LLU in New Zealand is a free trade agreement with the USA. It would then be a requirement for us to offer it as it's termed as anti-competitive!


174 posts

Master Geek
Inactive user


Reply # 26428 14-Jan-2006 17:34
Send private message

sbiddle: The only hope we've ever got of LLU in New Zealand is a free trade agreement with the USA. It would then be a requirement for us to offer it as it's termed as anti-competitive!


I remember TelstraClear focussing on that issue, amongst others, when the whole ULL debate was in full swing. However, an FTA with the USA won't happen to a sufficient extent with Labour in power, having said that National wouldn't be any better, neither party have any balls.

1831 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 19

Trusted

Reply # 26430 14-Jan-2006 17:45
Send private message

Nz_Dude: Ok then,

Vodafone’s wcdma is considered to be broadband yet I don’t see them making it a home broadband solution so why isn’t this happening. You want telecom to offer super cheap broadband why not write to the commerce commission and say you want voda to offer 1 GB cap for $30 a month. So I guess this makes voda greedy doesn’t it.



Vodafones network is for mobile phone use, it's not designed for home broadband computer use so dont compare it with telecom.

If Vodafone owned the telephone lines and all the adsl exhcanges around the country, then you could blame them, but what you said makes no sense whatsoever.

174 posts

Master Geek
Inactive user


Reply # 26433 14-Jan-2006 17:55
Send private message

Nz_Dude: Ok then,

Vodafone’s wcdma is considered to be broadband yet I don’t see them making it a home broadband solution so why isn’t this happening. You want telecom to offer super cheap broadband why not write to the commerce commission and say you want voda to offer 1 GB cap for $30 a month. So I guess this makes voda greedy doesn’t it.



That's a very poor, irrelevant comparison IMHO, especially in the New Zealand market.

25454 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5268

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Subscriber

Reply # 26438 14-Jan-2006 18:22
Send private message

simon_nz90:
Vodafones network is for mobile phone use, it's not designed for home broadband computer use so dont compare it with telecom.


Maybe you could tell Vodafone this - last year Vodafone Germany launched a home router with FXS interface so you can use Vodafone 3G as your broadband connection and hook up your home phones to a cellular gateway. Several other networks in Europe are all using the same device.


BDFL - Memuneh
58928 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 10298

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Subscriber

Reply # 26442 14-Jan-2006 18:35
Send private message

sbiddle: Maybe you could tell Vodafone this - last year Vodafone Germany launched a home router with FXS interface so you can use Vodafone 3G as your broadband connection and hook up your home phones to a cellular gateway. Several other networks in Europe are all using the same device.
Or this Linksys box...





174 posts

Master Geek
Inactive user


Reply # 26445 14-Jan-2006 19:23
Send private message

freitasm:
Or this Linksys box...


Damn, that's a good idea. Although even when HSDPA is implemented, the latency will still be too high for online gaming. Please Note: :-) with regards to my online gaming comment.

BDFL - Memuneh
58928 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 10298

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Subscriber

Reply # 26448 14-Jan-2006 19:46
Send private message

Certainly not for online gaming - but it's great for teams in a project when out of the office, consultants, etc... It can be used as an Internet access box for home users, but it's way more expensive than fixed line alternatives I think.





174 posts

Master Geek
Inactive user


Reply # 26449 14-Jan-2006 20:04
Send private message

freitasm: Certainly not for online gaming - but it's great for teams in a project when out of the office, consultants, etc... It can be used as an Internet access box for home users, but it's way more expensive than fixed line alternatives I think.


Most definately WAY more expensive, $149 for 1gig excluding GST to be exact with Vodafone.

However Telecom charge $99 for 400MB excluding GST! I agree for businesses, this would be a handy concept, with Vodafone currently being the cheapest for data.

But using this analogy in New Zealand, as an alternative to fixedline broadband, as Nz Dude has done is quite simply not appropriate right now.

BDFL - Memuneh
58928 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 10298

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Subscriber

Reply # 26450 14-Jan-2006 20:10
Send private message

Just in case you need to know, Telecom New Zealand does have a box that acts as a CDMA EV-DO -> Wi-Fi router (exactly like the Vodafone one). I am trying to get one for review, but we used it already during the Geekzone Dinner here in Wellington - very handy (and faster)...





174 posts

Master Geek
Inactive user


Reply # 26451 14-Jan-2006 20:12
Send private message

freitasm: Just in case you need to know, Telecom New Zealand does have a box that acts as a CDMA EV-DO -> Wi-Fi router (exactly like the Vodafone one). I am trying to get one for review, but we used it already during the Geekzone Dinner here in Wellington - very handy (and faster)...


Also FAR more expensive, but thanks for information anyway.

BDFL - Memuneh
58928 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 10298

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Subscriber

Reply # 26452 14-Jan-2006 20:15
Send private message

Grantis:
freitasm: Just in case you need to know, Telecom New Zealand does have a box that acts as a CDMA EV-DO -> Wi-Fi router (exactly like the Vodafone one). I am trying to get one for review, but we used it already during the Geekzone Dinner here in Wellington - very handy (and faster)...


Also FAR more expensive, but thanks for information anyway.
Yes, and no. Data is more expensive, but the network coverage and the fact that the fallback to 1xRTT is faster than the fallback to GPRS may be compelling reason to decide on one over another.

All in its own merit...





25454 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5268

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Subscriber

Reply # 26453 14-Jan-2006 20:50
Send private message

freitasm:
sbiddle: Maybe you could tell Vodafone this - last year Vodafone Germany launched a home router with FXS interface so you can use Vodafone 3G as your broadband connection and hook up your home phones to a cellular gateway. Several other networks in Europe are all using the same device.
Or this Linksys box...



The Linksys box is data only though - not voice as well.

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Vodafone TV — television in the cloud
Posted 17-Oct-2017 19:29


Nokia 8 review: Classy midrange pure Android phone
Posted 16-Oct-2017 07:27


Why carriers might want to embrace Commerce Commission study, MVNOs
Posted 13-Oct-2017 09:42


Fitbit launches Ionic, its health and fitness smartwatch
Posted 12-Oct-2017 15:52


Xero launches machine learning automation to improve coding accuracy for small businesses
Posted 12-Oct-2017 15:45


Bank of New Zealand uses Intel AI to detect financial crime
Posted 12-Oct-2017 15:39


Sony launches Xperia XZ1, a smartphone with real-time 3D capture
Posted 11-Oct-2017 10:26


Notes on Nokia’s phone comeback
Posted 10-Oct-2017 10:06


Air New Zealand begins Inflight Wi-Fi rollout
Posted 9-Oct-2017 20:16


The latest mobile phones in perspective
Posted 9-Oct-2017 18:34


Review: Acronis True Image 2018 — serious backup
Posted 8-Oct-2017 11:22


Lenovo launches ThinkPad Anniversary Edition 25
Posted 7-Oct-2017 23:16


Less fone, more tech as Vodafone gets brand make-over
Posted 6-Oct-2017 08:16


API Talent Achieves AWS MSP Partner Status
Posted 5-Oct-2017 21:20


Stellar Consulting Group now a Domo Partner
Posted 5-Oct-2017 21:03



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.