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Topic # 86075 30-Jun-2011 15:36
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Telecom confirms CDMA closure date: 31 July, 2012

Telecom has today confirmed that its CDMA mobile network will close on 31 July, 2012, following previous statements that the network would be maintained until mid-2012.

Since the launch of the XT mobile network in 2009, Telecom has said it would close the CDMA network around mid-2012. While the CDMA network will continue to operate as normal until then, after the closure devices on the CDMA network will not be able to make or receive calls and texts, or use data.

Telecom Retail CEO, Alan Gourdie, said Telecom is committed to providing a smooth and straightforward transition for CDMA customers to move to the XT network well in advance of its closure.

“We have a number of communications, offers and support available over the next 13 months. Starting tomorrow, we will be in touch with each one of our CDMA customers directly to give formal notice of the network closure, and to advise them of our plans and answer any questions they have,” said Mr Gourdie.

“CDMA customers can keep their phone number, their contacts and any existing credit when they sign up to XT.

“In order to assist customers we have developed a range of XT handset offers exclusively for CDMA customers, a number of which cost $0 upfront. These offers are supported by a range of attractive plans.

“The handsets come in a range of options to suit all types of users, and include familiar brands so customers are able to find a phone that works like the one they’re used to,” Mr Gourdie said.

Gen-i is also working with its clients to ensure that they are aware of their options well in advance of the CDMA network closure.  Business clients should contact their Gen-i client manager for further information.

For more information on the CDMA closure, visit www.telecom.co.nz/cdma








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  Reply # 487922 30-Jun-2011 15:53
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Any word on uses for the now vacant spectrum? LTE or an expansion of XT?

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  Reply # 487988 30-Jun-2011 17:23
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wellygary: Any word on uses for the now vacant spectrum? LTE or an expansion of XT?


I think LTE won't come into play in NZ until Analogue TV is shutdown and whoever pays for the 700-800Mhz range.  With the crazy fast HTPA+ speeds on XT right now is anyone going to pay for faster internet than that?  Where would the ROI be?





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  Reply # 487991 30-Jun-2011 17:25
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wellygary: Any word on uses for the now vacant spectrum? LTE or an expansion of XT?


I am guessing but capacity for XT Daul carrier / Tri carrier and so on

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  Reply # 488011 30-Jun-2011 18:21
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Here's Telecom's CDMA to XT offer for Prepaid Customers:


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  Reply # 488053 30-Jun-2011 20:39
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wellygary: Any word on uses for the now vacant spectrum? LTE or an expansion of XT?


I think LTE won't come into play in NZ until Analogue TV is shutdown and whoever pays for the 700-800Mhz range.  With the crazy fast HTPA+ speeds on XT right now is anyone going to pay for faster internet than that?  Where would the ROI be?


No reason why LTE can't be deployed now on 1800MHz - Vodafone and Telecom both have spectrum and looking at this it will be one of the major dominant LTE bands.

The real question is building a business case for such a network that delivers an ROI, which right now would be impossible to write.

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  Reply # 488243 1-Jul-2011 13:05
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BarTender:
wellygary: Any word on uses for the now vacant spectrum? LTE or an expansion of XT?


I think LTE won't come into play in NZ until Analogue TV is shutdown and whoever pays for the 700-800Mhz range.  With the crazy fast HTPA+ speeds on XT right now is anyone going to pay for faster internet than that?  Where would the ROI be?


No reason why LTE can't be deployed now on 1800MHz - Vodafone and Telecom both have spectrum and looking at this it will be one of the major dominant LTE bands.

The real question is building a business case for such a network that delivers an ROI, which right now would be impossible to write.


Personally I'd sooner see a more consistent coverage of New Zealand based on existing technologies than the carriers running off to implement LTE - the 3G Vodafone coverage, quite frankly, makes their '97%' as nothing more than a giant lie (try using Vodafone in the Hutt Valley, constant dropping back to 2G because Vodafone refuses to use the 900Mhz frequency in an obviously hilly place).




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  Reply # 488248 1-Jul-2011 13:31
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VinLew: Here's Telecom's CDMA to XT offer for Prepaid Customers:



Wow those prices are really crap, I wonder why anyone would take them up?

When AMPS shut down I seem to remember them offering a free phone to get people off the network towards the end so maybe CDMAers need to hang in there.   

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  Reply # 488250 1-Jul-2011 13:39
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nitrotech:
VinLew: Here's Telecom's CDMA to XT offer for Prepaid Customers:



Wow those prices are really crap, I wonder why anyone would take them up?

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don't look too bad to me.   $109 with $60 credit means you basically have a $49  3G phone. 

and the actual rates and packs etc available on XT are almost all waaaay better than anything on CDMA. e.g. $10 for 500 TXT on CDMA, vs $12 for 2500 TXTs on XT.


But yeah, wouldn't be surprised if they gave more closer to the time.

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     I say bugger now that Telecom is closing down its CMDA network in August 2012.  I quite like the CMDA network; it does not have problems as the GSM network has.  I am still lamenting over the closing of the 025 network.  I miss my old Motorola brick phone that worked almost anywhere. I also had a Motorola 5 watt bag phone.  The problem is I will need a new phone that has plenty of power, an extended aerial, receives SMS Text, as well as using it as a phone, is easy on batteries and under $200.  What do you readers recommend?   

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  Reply # 491542 9-Jul-2011 23:34
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paulus:      I say bugger now that Telecom is closing down its CMDA network in August 2012.  I quite like the CMDA network; it does not have problems as the GSM network has.


telecom doesn't have a GSM network. 

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  Reply # 491586 10-Jul-2011 09:27
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kawaii: Personally I'd sooner see a more consistent coverage of New Zealand based on existing technologies than the carriers running off to implement LTE - the 3G Vodafone coverage, quite frankly, makes their '97%' as nothing more than a giant lie (try using Vodafone in the Hutt Valley, constant dropping back to 2G because Vodafone refuses to use the 900Mhz frequency in an obviously hilly place).


Vodafone aren't refusing to use 900 for 3G because of the terrain - they haven't 900 deployed in any major urban environments yet, but it is coming.

It's not simple matter of simply installing gear, you first need to completely redesign the 900 GSM network and remap many of the frequencies that are used. This means a higher frequency reuse which requires significant testing to sure it doesn't introduce dropped calls. You also need to install new 1800 GSM sites to offload GSM traffic in high use area.

Only then do you have spectrum free to enable deployment.. These things take time and lots of planning!


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