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  Reply # 498228 26-Jul-2011 20:27
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Tel69: Interesting, It's not how the sales person/call center person explained it to me when I signed up.
Will have to see if I can get someone from Telecom on the phone who knows exactly what the story is.

Cymro:
Nothing stopping you from changing back down to your original plan, you are not locked into the +20GB, just the base package Laughing


Cymro is right.  your contract is for Total home broadband but you can change your data cap once per month to whichever version of that package you like.

I believe (though not 100% sure) that you can even switch between the different total home versions too with no penalty. e.g. you could move to Total Home Starter if you really wanted to.


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  Reply # 498255 26-Jul-2011 21:55
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was 40, now 60, me happy :)

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  Reply # 498260 26-Jul-2011 22:00
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this is a slap in the face




this is a slap in the face!

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  Reply # 498271 26-Jul-2011 22:25
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I expect the reason is due to the new copyright laws beginning in Sept 1st .

Telecom rightly believe that network utilisation will drop, therefore they know they can add customers without needing additional bandwidth.

Makes sense to me.


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  Reply # 498280 26-Jul-2011 22:56
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wreck90: I expect the reason is due to the new copyright laws beginning in Sept 1st .

Telecom rightly believe that network utilisation will drop, therefore they know they can add customers without needing additional bandwidth.

Makes sense to me.



right.. like that law is going to do anything :P




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  Reply # 498281 26-Jul-2011 23:06
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wreck90: I expect the reason is due to the new copyright laws beginning in Sept 1st .

Telecom rightly believe that network utilisation will drop, therefore they know they can add customers without needing additional bandwidth.

Makes sense to me.



LOL.

(I'm assuming you're joking)

Cheers - N :-)


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  Reply # 498282 26-Jul-2011 23:08
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shadybrothers: this is a slap in the face


??

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  Reply # 498283 26-Jul-2011 23:09
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wreck90: I expect the reason is due to the new copyright laws beginning in Sept 1st .

Telecom rightly believe that network utilisation will drop, therefore they know they can add customers without needing additional bandwidth.

Makes sense to me.



lol, as if anyone believes network utilisation will drop any sort of meaningful amount.

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  Reply # 498294 26-Jul-2011 23:43

I am already struggling with 80Gb/month without any p2p, usenet or similar illegal activities and am glad that in NZ something is finally happening regarding data caps.

If you really want to use the internet you still need more than 100Gb/month. I am sick of having to wait or pay to download new games or not being able to listen to online radio.

With these data caps how are servcies like Apples iCloud, Google Music, or Netflix even going to work in NZ?

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  Reply # 498295 26-Jul-2011 23:43
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Talkiet:
wreck90: I expect the reason is due to the new copyright laws beginning in Sept 1st .

Telecom rightly believe that network utilisation will drop, therefore they know they can add customers without needing additional bandwidth.

Makes sense to me.



LOL.

(I'm assuming you're joking)

Cheers - N :-)



theres always one..




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  Reply # 498296 26-Jul-2011 23:49
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testha: I am already struggling with 80Gb/month without any p2p, usenet or similar illegal activities and am glad that in NZ something is finally happening regarding data caps.

If you really want to use the internet you still need more than 100Gb/month. I am sick of having to wait or pay to download new games or not being able to listen to online radio.

With these data caps how are servcies like Apples iCloud, Google Music, or Netflix even going to work in NZ?


Let me preface this by saying I personally am a very heavy user, and I have a continuous realtime backup of a LOT of photos and raw images to a backup service in the US - and I have two separate ADSL connections here at home.

Now with that out of the way.

"If you really want to use the internet you still need more than 100Gb/month" - Sorry, that's just misleading. Average monthly use in NZ is in the order of 6-10GB/connection... But wait I hear you say, that's only because of our caps which are not common around the rest of the world.

Well, Cisco regularly update their GLOBAL usage estimates and it's currently sitting at about 12-15GB/connection/month. Sure there will be a few users over 100GB, but that's at least a couple of standard deviations away from 15GB - so it's pretty safe to say 99% of the global internet users get by on less than 100GB/month.

Note I am in no way saying you don't have a valid need for more than 100GB/month... I use more than that as well - but I realise and accept I am in the utterly tiny minority, both NZ and worldwide.

Cheers - N


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  Reply # 498297 26-Jul-2011 23:50
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I currently have double data from Telecom as part of their Christmas bonus last year. So being on Total Home with 10 gigs doubled to 20 until December, reckon they'll double that again? :-P Good news though, even if we struggle to use 5 gigs a month...

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  Reply # 498303 27-Jul-2011 00:05

Talkiet:
testha: I am already struggling with 80Gb/month without any p2p, usenet or similar illegal activities and am glad that in NZ something is finally happening regarding data caps.

If you really want to use the internet you still need more than 100Gb/month. I am sick of having to wait or pay to download new games or not being able to listen to online radio.

With these data caps how are servcies like Apples iCloud, Google Music, or Netflix even going to work in NZ?


Let me preface this by saying I personally am a very heavy user, and I have a continuous realtime backup of a LOT of photos and raw images to a backup service in the US - and I have two separate ADSL connections here at home.

Now with that out of the way.

"If you really want to use the internet you still need more than 100Gb/month" - Sorry, that's just misleading. Average monthly use in NZ is in the order of 6-10GB/connection... But wait I hear you say, that's only because of our caps which are not common around the rest of the world.

Well, Cisco regularly update their GLOBAL usage estimates and it's currently sitting at about 12-15GB/connection/month. Sure there will be a few users over 100GB, but that's at least a couple of standard deviations away from 15GB - so it's pretty safe to say 99% of the global internet users get by on less than 100GB/month.

Note I am in no way saying you don't have a valid need for more than 100GB/month... I use more than that as well - but I realise and accept I am in the utterly tiny minority, both NZ and worldwide.

Cheers - N



Might be cause I used to live in Europe for a long time without any data caps, back then I had no idea how much I was actually using, so I was listening to streaming radio all the time. Here it is a luxury for me to do so at $2/GB once I run out.

It might be a habit of someone used to no data caps. I even got rid of my TV ages ago, cause TV on Demand was just so much better, here people might be to carefull about there caps to even try this.

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  Reply # 498334 27-Jul-2011 07:52
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l43a2:
Talkiet:
wreck90: I expect the reason is due to the new copyright laws beginning in Sept 1st .

Telecom rightly believe that network utilisation will drop, therefore they know they can add customers without needing additional bandwidth.

Makes sense to me.



LOL.

(I'm assuming you're joking)

Cheers - N :-)



theres always one..


The new laws will make a difference. The question is , by how much. 

Not everyone has the intelligence or spare cash (such as GZ subscribers) to pay for the various work arounds of which there are many. 

 

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  Reply # 498346 27-Jul-2011 08:49
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wreck90:
l43a2:
Talkiet:
wreck90: I expect the reason is due to the new copyright laws beginning in Sept 1st .

Telecom rightly believe that network utilisation will drop, therefore they know they can add customers without needing additional bandwidth.

Makes sense to me.



LOL.

(I'm assuming you're joking)

Cheers - N :-)



theres always one..


The new laws will make a difference. The question is , by how much. 

Not everyone has the intelligence or spare cash (such as GZ subscribers) to pay for the various work arounds of which there are many. 

 


Getting a bit off topic now, but I seriously doubt people will need to bother with VPNs, invite only torent etc.

Rights holders have to pay $25 per complaint. They need at least 3 complaints before it can get to court and they have to pay a further $200 to get it that far.  There is no way they can afford to go out spamming people who dload a few movies or songs here and there with complaints.  They will have to restrict their complaints to a few of the most egregious users. 

Besides which, torrenting as a proportion of net traffic has been dropping steadily year on year. Things like streaming video (e.g. youtube, which this law does not affect at all) take up a much bigger percentage of traffic nowadays

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