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matt45

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#508729 18-Aug-2011 20:19

Is Telecom planning to offer Naked DSL anytime soon?

Why would they? as the PSTN is not a regulated product it costs telecom retail sweet f all. NDSL connections (on the telecom wholesale DSL network) actually all connect back to a POTS EN/Port/Linecard anyway its just not activated so you can't use it. Retail/Wholesale pay chorus the same price for the line/MPF regardless of what services they put over it so why not use the PSTN instead of just having it sit there.

I was on the telecom trial for their naked/voip service (aprox 1 year ago) which has since been shelved likley due to UFB. The existing equipment is capable of providing the service.

Going naked with another provider vs having a standard phone and DSL with another provider is only about $10 cheaper a month ... personally i would rather stick with the PSTN as its a lot more resilient to line faults and proven fairly stable over its lifespan which is what you want when there is a power outage and you need to call 111.

having said this ... PSTN is due for decommission 2020 and with UFB coming its days are numbered.

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As for the zero-rated national traffic IMO i don't really care there isn't enough content that i get from NZ origin for it to make a difference.

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matt45

311 posts

Ultimate Geek

#508731 18-Aug-2011 20:21

tr3v:
tr3v:
scuwp:
Huh? Why did you get charged more? They didn't make any other changes to our plan other than increasing the data cap. Did you change something else?

I will reread my notice when I get home - I am certain there was a $5 increase. I am on a business plan, which now looks like it is called 'advanced'. So maybe I can now downgrade, and get some money back.

Yup. $5 increase, but the letter does go on to suggest I look at the other plans should I want to change.

I believe this is only if you are not on a "total home" or "total office" plan (could be wrong) but i think if you change to one of these plans you will get your $5 back.

firefuze

502 posts

Ultimate Geek

#508751 18-Aug-2011 21:38

Customers on Standalone Broadband plans will be seeing a $5 monthly price increase and an increase in data allowance aswel. Applies to standalone plans only, not Total Home plans. As below:

Go Plan 3GB $41 > 5GB $46
Explorer Plan 10GB $51 > 20GB $56
Adventure Plan 20GB $61 > 40GB $66
Pro Plan 40GB $81 > 60GB $86

tdgeek

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#508761 18-Aug-2011 21:52

While there are points raised over the standalone price changes, prior to the plan upgrades and price changes, the packages already offered best value.

There is no downside, you will not be encumbered with a contract to change from a seperate landline and broadband scenario to a package.

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hangon

397 posts

Ultimate Geek

#508951 19-Aug-2011 12:40

I'd rather see total home broadband with $40 GB traffic and reduce price by say $15~$20.

That'd be some serious marketing.

Maybe you didn't realize there is a huge gap in terms of traffic quota in Telecom's plans. Or you know that majority of customers won't use much of the extra $20 GB so it's NOT really an incentive at all.

NonprayingMantis

6434 posts

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#508963 19-Aug-2011 13:00

hangon: I'd rather see total home broadband with $40 GB traffic and reduce price by say $15~$20.

That'd be some serious marketing.

Maybe you didn't realize there is a huge gap in terms of traffic quota in Telecom's plans. Or you know that majority of customers won't use much of the extra $20 GB so it's NOT really an incentive at all.

You can get plans with 2GB, 5GB, 10GB, 20GB, 40GB, 60GB, 80GB, or 100GB.

where is the gap?

hangon

397 posts

Ultimate Geek

#508968 19-Aug-2011 13:16

NonprayingMantis:
hangon: I'd rather see total home broadband with $40 GB traffic and reduce price by say $15~$20.

That'd be some serious marketing.

Maybe you didn't realize there is a huge gap in terms of traffic quota in Telecom's plans. Or you know that majority of customers won't use much of the extra $20 GB so it's NOT really an incentive at all.

You can get plans with 2GB, 5GB, 10GB, 20GB, 40GB, 60GB, 80GB, or 100GB.

where is the gap?

Apologies, my lack of observation then. Didn't drill down to total home starter menu, so it looked to me it's either 5 GB or 60 GB for bb + local calls.

Still, I'm shopping for a new plan with ~30GB - we've been using around 20 GB about every month in the last year - the plans would either fall short or waste money. You could call that picky.

And if I choose total home starter with 40GB the price would be $103 - this is a $2 difference with total home broadband BEFORE the so called incentive.

A $2 difference, sounds quite different from "we either doubled or added 20GB to pretty much all our current plans".

P.S.Telecom's Second-Half Adjusted Net Profit Climbs 66%

NonprayingMantis

6434 posts

Uber Geek

#508980 19-Aug-2011 13:40

hangon:
NonprayingMantis:
hangon: I'd rather see total home broadband with $40 GB traffic and reduce price by say $15~$20.

That'd be some serious marketing.

Maybe you didn't realize there is a huge gap in terms of traffic quota in Telecom's plans. Or you know that majority of customers won't use much of the extra $20 GB so it's NOT really an incentive at all.

You can get plans with 2GB, 5GB, 10GB, 20GB, 40GB, 60GB, 80GB, or 100GB.

where is the gap?

Apologies, my lack of observation then. Didn't drill down to total home starter menu, so it looked to me it's either 5 GB or 60 GB for bb + local calls.

Still, I'm shopping for a new plan with ~30GB - we've been using around 20 GB about every month in the last year - the plans would either fall short or waste money. You could call that picky.

And if I choose total home starter with 40GB the price would be $103 - this is a $2 difference with total home broadband BEFORE the so called incentive.

A $2 difference, sounds quite different from "we either doubled or added 20GB to pretty much all our current plans".

P.S.Telecom's Second-Half Adjusted Net Profit Climbs 66%

Total Home starter with 40GB was $123 before the datacap increase. Now it’s $103. It’s effectively $20 cheaper than it used to be.

But,why would you want total home starter with 40GB when you can get 60GB on total home broadband and better calling rates for $2 more?

I'm still unsure what it is you are wanting?

and where did that headline on earnings come from? Year on year, net profit is up 1.6% adjusted for impariments, and DOWN over 50% before adjustments

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10746056

"Net profit was $166 million, or 9 cents per share, in the 12 months ended June 30, compared to $382 million, or 20 cents a share, a year earlier"

hangon

397 posts

Ultimate Geek

#508996 19-Aug-2011 14:10

Total Home starter with 40GB was $123 before the datacap increase. Now it’s $103. It’s effectively $20 cheaper than it used to be.

But,why would you want total home starter with 40GB when you can get 60GB on total home broadband and better calling rates for $2 more?

I'm still unsure what it is you are wanting?

Why would anyone choose a starter with 40GB for $123, over a Total Home Broadband 40GB for $105 before the cap increase??? Seriously?

Now getting a same plan as Total Home Broadband 40GB pre cap increase would cost $103, instead of $105. That's $2.00

I want a 30 GB plan, with either VoIP or landline - and not spending an arm. My current ISP provides 50GB + VoIP for $79 with 1yr contract. I'm willing to pay more (probably not as much as $103), for less traffic, but better peak time throughput.

I guess it depends where you looking from.

news came from WSJ, then NBR
http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/telecom-posts-full-year-profit-388-million-db-99174

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