Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3
Fraktul
836 posts

Ultimate Geek

Trusted

  #118826 26-Mar-2008 17:58
Send private message

freitasm: You think Geekzone is heavy? Try this page and look at the source code...


Strangely enough Firefox thread CPU usage on that page (no GZ open) ~2-5%. Firefox thread CPU usage on GZ alone ~20-25%.

Firefox 2.0.0.13.


 
 
 

GoodSync. Easily back up and sync your files with GoodSync. Simple and secure file backup and synchronisation software will ensure that your files are never lost (affiliate link).
freitasm
BDFL - Memuneh
76816 posts

Uber Geek

Administrator
ID Verified
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

#118832 26-Mar-2008 18:04
Send private message

I understand the user experience is regardless of source, but I am also saying that I have the site open in multiple tabs and I never had problems.

Note that by "problems" I mean the rendering interfering with any other computer usage.

To be fair I have pulled the Telecom advertising and notified the agency about this.




Please support Geekzone by subscribing, or using one of our referral links: Dosh referral: 00001283 | Sharesies | Goodsync | Mighty Ape | Backblaze

 

freitasm on Keybase | My technology disclosure

 

 

 

 

 

 


freitasm
BDFL - Memuneh
76816 posts

Uber Geek

Administrator
ID Verified
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

  #118833 26-Mar-2008 18:08
Send private message

Fraktul:
freitasm: You think Geekzone is heavy? Try this page and look at the source code...


Strangely enough Firefox thread CPU usage on that page (no GZ open) ~2-5%. Firefox thread CPU usage on GZ alone ~20-25%.

Firefox 2.0.0.13.



And the point is? 20 - 25% of CPU utilisation is low. I come from an environment where we tended to use 90% flat, 24/7 because it just means using all resources available.

That's why we have OSes with threading - everything gets a slice of time and will do its job.

I am not saying it's good to have a single page using more CPU than others - and I think the problem is the Telecom flash advert which is now out of the rotation. But I never complained about my computer doing its work. Of course a complete different thing would be a loop pegging to the CPU and causing the whole machine to stop. But I haven't seen this - and I test on many different machines around here.





Please support Geekzone by subscribing, or using one of our referral links: Dosh referral: 00001283 | Sharesies | Goodsync | Mighty Ape | Backblaze

 

freitasm on Keybase | My technology disclosure

 

 

 

 

 

 




manhinli
2483 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  #118835 26-Mar-2008 18:09
Send private message

freitasm: To be fair I have pulled the Telecom advertising and notified the agency about this.

Ah... at least the Flash ads have been reduced in number (not completely gone yet though - one example is the MS Visual Studio 08 ads, which I know won't go away that fast...)




Find me on Twitter!

I posted 1, 2 x 10^3 times!

freitasm
BDFL - Memuneh
76816 posts

Uber Geek

Administrator
ID Verified
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

#118836 26-Mar-2008 18:12
Send private message

manhinli: ...the MS Visual Studio 08 ads, which I know won't go away that fast...)


I am interested to find out how you "know" it won't go away that fast?

FYI the Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 ad finishes in a couple of days.

What's the problem with ads folks? Really, do you guys have any idea how much it cost to run a site with the number of page impressions and bandwidth we use?




Please support Geekzone by subscribing, or using one of our referral links: Dosh referral: 00001283 | Sharesies | Goodsync | Mighty Ape | Backblaze

 

freitasm on Keybase | My technology disclosure

 

 

 

 

 

 


manhinli
2483 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  #118839 26-Mar-2008 18:20
Send private message

Nothing's wrong with ads in general, but it's the ads themselves.

Sure, websites need some sort of external revenue (like ads and sponsorships...), and I know that ads are externally processed (though profiles can be edited to provide more focused content)... which is why I have to put up with such things.




Find me on Twitter!

I posted 1, 2 x 10^3 times!

Fraktul
836 posts

Ultimate Geek

Trusted

  #118840 26-Mar-2008 18:39
Send private message

freitasm:
Fraktul:
freitasm: You think Geekzone is heavy? Try this page and look at the source code...


Strangely enough Firefox thread CPU usage on that page (no GZ open) ~2-5%. Firefox thread CPU usage on GZ alone ~20-25%.

Firefox 2.0.0.13.





And the point is? 20 - 25% of CPU utilisation is low. I come from an environment where we tended to use 90% flat, 24/7 because it just means using all resources available.



That's why we have OSes with threading - everything gets a slice of time and will do its job.



I am not saying it's good to have a single page using more CPU than others - and I think the problem is the Telecom flash advert which is now out of the rotation. But I never complained about my computer doing its work. Of course a complete different thing would be a loop pegging to the CPU and causing the whole machine to stop. But I haven't seen this - and I test on many different machines around here.





You quoted the page for comparison, not me :)

All I was saying was that for me GZ was more resource intensive than the page you quoted, as presumably something you would think was more resource intensive. Nothing more, nothing less.



freitasm
BDFL - Memuneh
76816 posts

Uber Geek

Administrator
ID Verified
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

#118842 26-Mar-2008 18:43
Send private message

I pointed to that page because someone commented on the number of scripts we have on Geekzone - and I was just demonstrating that we actually have very little compared with other pages. Another comment was on use of AJAX - which we don't have any at the moment.

The whole thing was clogged up because of one ad which is no longer being shown.




Please support Geekzone by subscribing, or using one of our referral links: Dosh referral: 00001283 | Sharesies | Goodsync | Mighty Ape | Backblaze

 

freitasm on Keybase | My technology disclosure

 

 

 

 

 

 


manhinli
2483 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#118844 26-Mar-2008 18:51
Send private message

Here's my way to show the sweet, sweet proof:
- Firefox 2.0.0.13/Win, all addons disabled, cache cleared at start.
- AMD Turion64 2.0GHz, 512MB RAM


Pictures (don't look at the percentage reading, but the graph. Also the huge spike at the start always happens, so ignore that):

Firefox with absolutely nothing:


A trip to Geekzone:


Now, scrolling seems to really do something... 100% utilisation? (maybe Flash ads? maybe Firefox? I'll look into this later):



Now for the biggie - loading 10 tabs (I've closed Task Manager, so the graph can be refreshed):

- Ready state... about to begin (not much, so I've made the pic smaller)


- Loading... (here we go...)


- Finished!


I think it's great... what do you think? Is it close (or way off) than your conclusions?




Find me on Twitter!

I posted 1, 2 x 10^3 times!

freitasm
BDFL - Memuneh
76816 posts

Uber Geek

Administrator
ID Verified
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

#118845 26-Mar-2008 18:54
Send private message

Because the chart goes up and down I think it shows Firefox rendering the page - if it was something else I would expect the utilisation to stay pretty much linear instead of going back down.




Please support Geekzone by subscribing, or using one of our referral links: Dosh referral: 00001283 | Sharesies | Goodsync | Mighty Ape | Backblaze

 

freitasm on Keybase | My technology disclosure

 

 

 

 

 

 


manhinli
2483 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  #118846 26-Mar-2008 18:55
Send private message

Good then.

Any counter-arguments?




Find me on Twitter!

I posted 1, 2 x 10^3 times!

Fraktul
836 posts

Ultimate Geek

Trusted

  #118849 26-Mar-2008 19:03
Send private message

Sans Telecom Ad my CPU usage is now 2-5% on GZ. :)

manhinli
2483 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#118850 26-Mar-2008 19:06
Send private message

Fraktul: Sans Telecom Ad my CPU usage is now 2-5% on GZ. :)

When exactly did the Telecom Ads disappear?

In your previous post you said that the CPU usage on GZ alone was "~20-25%" and that you used "Firefox 2.0.0.13."

Firefox 2.0.0.13 was released yesterday less than 24 hours ago, how could CPU usage like that change so suddenly? Hmm...




Find me on Twitter!

I posted 1, 2 x 10^3 times!

freitasm
BDFL - Memuneh
76816 posts

Uber Geek

Administrator
ID Verified
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

#118851 26-Mar-2008 19:07
Send private message

My eyes! Do we need those huge screenshots?




Please support Geekzone by subscribing, or using one of our referral links: Dosh referral: 00001283 | Sharesies | Goodsync | Mighty Ape | Backblaze

 

freitasm on Keybase | My technology disclosure

 

 

 

 

 

 


freitasm
BDFL - Memuneh
76816 posts

Uber Geek

Administrator
ID Verified
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

  #118854 26-Mar-2008 19:08
Send private message

manhinli:
Fraktul: Sans Telecom Ad my CPU usage is now 2-5% on GZ. :)

When exactly did the Telecom Ads disappear?


The ads were paused today at 6:02pm.




Please support Geekzone by subscribing, or using one of our referral links: Dosh referral: 00001283 | Sharesies | Goodsync | Mighty Ape | Backblaze

 

freitasm on Keybase | My technology disclosure

 

 

 

 

 

 


1 | 2 | 3
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic





News and reviews »

Synology Introduces BeeStation
Posted 23-Feb-2024 14:14


New One UI 6.1 Update Brings Galaxy AI to More Galaxy Devices
Posted 23-Feb-2024 10:50


Amazon Echo Hub Available in New Zealand
Posted 23-Feb-2024 10:40


InternetNZ Releases Internet Insights 2023
Posted 20-Feb-2024 10:31


Seagate Adds 24TB IronWolf Pro Hard Drives for Multi-user Commercial and Enterprise RAID Storage Solutions
Posted 19-Feb-2024 16:54


Seagate Skyhawk AI 24TB Elevates Edge Security Capacity and Performance
Posted 9-Feb-2024 17:18


GoPro Releases Quik Desktop App for macOS and Introduces Premium+ Subscription Tier
Posted 9-Feb-2024 17:14


Ring Introduces New Ring Battery Video Doorbell Pro
Posted 9-Feb-2024 16:51


Galaxy AI Transforms the new Galaxy S24 Series
Posted 18-Jan-2024 07:00


D-Link launches AI-Powered Aquila Pro M30 Wi-Fi 6 Mesh Systems
Posted 17-Jan-2024 20:02


Newest LG 4K Lifestyle Projector Doubles as Art Objet
Posted 9-Jan-2024 15:50


More LG Smart TV Owners Set To Enjoy the Latest webOS Upgrade
Posted 9-Jan-2024 15:45


Panasonic Announces the Z95A and Z93A With Fire TV Built In
Posted 9-Jan-2024 15:30


Amazon Echo Pop Review
Posted 8-Jan-2024 14:22


Samsung Tab S9 FE Review
Posted 17-Dec-2023 08:26









Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.







Backblaze unlimited backup