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  # 1792272 31-May-2017 12:09
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Geektastic:

Also, can we ban certain books from being discussed? List to follow. 😉

 

Following on from that thought, howzabout we have ourselves a little book burning party?


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  # 1792300 31-May-2017 13:00
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none of these address my original statement:

 

 

 

I can only think of 3 users I'd like to block for consistent inflammatory and/or useless threads, and constant political left/right/left/right user bashing which would be awesome to have [Filtered] as suggested by Freitasm earlier in this thread.

It's truely not about whether or not I agree with their views, but more that their needless twit/twoo detracts from the central OP discussion so consistently.

Alternately, could we add a FUG (like Godwins) to specifically partition the Trump debate into the Trump thread? Seems like these days just about every other thread more than 2 pages degenerates into a pro/bash Trump discussion again... respectfully, is Trump the new Godwins candidate?


 
 
 
 


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  # 1792321 31-May-2017 13:22
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This thread is a great example of the problem in itself, it has degenerated into belittling jokes and given the pattern of +1s, the echo chamber that so many fear, already exists. I'm not a precious snowflake, but I know bullying when I see it. It is starting to feel more like the stuff.co.nz comments section lately round here.

 

 

 

 








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# 1792323 31-May-2017 13:22
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UHD:

 

Hey may I request a feature where I only see posts from people who wholeheartedly support my opinions please? I'm often triggered when someone disagrees with me and I need GZ to be my safe space. I can provide a list of issues and my opinions on them upon request so I'm able to be matched with the members who agree with me.

 

 

And you can call it TinderGeek. :)

 

 





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  # 1792326 31-May-2017 13:24
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You are all stupid.

 

This is a stupid idea.

 

I'm right.


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  # 1792332 31-May-2017 13:28
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gbwelly:

 

This thread is a great example of the problem in itself, it has degenerated into belittling jokes and given the pattern of +1s, the echo chamber that so many fear, already exists. I'm not a precious snowflake, but I know bullying when I see it. It is starting to feel more like the stuff.co.nz comments section lately round here.

 

 

Have you reported any examples of this bullying (either towards yourself or others), to the mods? If so, have they done something about it?


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  # 1792341 31-May-2017 13:46
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PhantomNVD:

 

none of these address my original statement:

 

 

 

I can only think of 3 users I'd like to block for consistent inflammatory and/or useless threads, and constant political left/right/left/right user bashing which would be awesome to have [Filtered] as suggested by Freitasm earlier in this thread.

It's truely not about whether or not I agree with their views, but more that their needless twit/twoo detracts from the central OP discussion so consistently.

Alternately, could we add a FUG (like Godwins) to specifically partition the Trump debate into the Trump thread? Seems like these days just about every other thread more than 2 pages degenerates into a pro/bash Trump discussion again... respectfully, is Trump the new Godwins candidate?

 



I feel our admins do a great job at filtering out trolls and people who fit that description.

 

I think that having the option to ignore some usernames is detrimental to this community. Freedom of speech and everything else aside, It removes the context of what people are discussing. It also allows the user to create a "censored" world of their own they can tailor to their liking which sounds pretty DPRK to me. 


 
 
 
 


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  # 1792352 31-May-2017 14:03
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I have a suggestion which is similar to what we had on a Forum I administered, that is, we separate the Off Topic and similar sub Forums from technical discussions into say a "Community Discussions" sub-forum. The Community Discussion could be coded out of Geekzone live so not displaying on the front page. On the Forum I admin'd the Community Discussion was only open to registered members. One would have to then decide if you wanted to enter the twilight zone or not. 





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Using empathy takes no energy and can gain so much. Try it.

 

 


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  # 1792360 31-May-2017 14:14
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gbwelly:

 

This thread is a great example of the problem in itself, it has degenerated into belittling jokes and given the pattern of +1s, the echo chamber that so many fear, already exists. I'm not a precious snowflake, but I know bullying when I see it. It is starting to feel more like the stuff.co.nz comments section lately round here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The boorish posts I find very tiresome. I guess that's one way to defend a point, but would be nice for some to learn to discuss, rather than come back all guns blazing with putdowns and a string of adjectives when someone disagrees. Or maybe they cannot handle opposition?


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  # 1792365 31-May-2017 14:24
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TimA:

 

PhantomNVD:

 

none of these address my original statement:

 

 

 

I can only think of 3 users I'd like to block for consistent inflammatory and/or useless threads, and constant political left/right/left/right user bashing which would be awesome to have [Filtered] as suggested by Freitasm earlier in this thread.

It's truely not about whether or not I agree with their views, but more that their needless twit/twoo detracts from the central OP discussion so consistently.

Alternately, could we add a FUG (like Godwins) to specifically partition the Trump debate into the Trump thread? Seems like these days just about every other thread more than 2 pages degenerates into a pro/bash Trump discussion again... respectfully, is Trump the new Godwins candidate?

 



I feel our admins do a great job at filtering out trolls and people who fit that description.

 

I think that having the option to ignore some usernames is detrimental to this community. Freedom of speech and everything else aside, It removes the context of what people are discussing. It also allows the user to create a "censored" world of their own they can tailor to their liking which sounds pretty DPRK to me. 

 

 

 

So do I just start a 'report' on all the OT comments (especially the ones that go "all Trump") and hope for the best?

 

 

 

*edit -Spelling


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  # 1792374 31-May-2017 14:42
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gzt: It's a good example where rational discussion and the weight of evidence may have changed the beliefs and opinions of contributors.


Its a good example of a thread that most level headed people will simply ignore.


There were a good number of Pro-Trump people contributing initially. That seemed to tail off in line with Trump's decreasing approval ratings.

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  # 1792376 31-May-2017 14:45
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PhantomNVD:

 

TimA:

 

PhantomNVD:

 

none of these address my original statement:

 

 

 

I can only think of 3 users I'd like to block for consistent inflammatory and/or useless threads, and constant political left/right/left/right user bashing which would be awesome to have [Filtered] as suggested by Freitasm earlier in this thread.

It's truely not about whether or not I agree with their views, but more that their needless twit/twoo detracts from the central OP discussion so consistently.

Alternately, could we add a FUG (like Godwins) to specifically partition the Trump debate into the Trump thread? Seems like these days just about every other thread more than 2 pages degenerates into a pro/bash Trump discussion again... respectfully, is Trump the new Godwins candidate?

 



I feel our admins do a great job at filtering out trolls and people who fit that description.

 

I think that having the option to ignore some usernames is detrimental to this community. Freedom of speech and everything else aside, It removes the context of what people are discussing. It also allows the user to create a "censored" world of their own they can tailor to their liking which sounds pretty DPRK to me. 

 

 

 

So do I just start a 'report' on all the OT comments (especially the ones that go "all Trump") and hope for the best?

 

 

 

*edit -Spelling

 

 

 

 

In an ideal world i suppose we should "report" comments that do not belong where they are.
Whether that will fix the problem, I dont know but its a step in the right direction than just muting everyone as all i see that will create is an elitist society. 

 

Most likely will be abused the heck out of and no one will want to know about us. I would hate to think what the lurkers think of this idea.
I feel its a complete turn off, Who would want to join a community that will mute you if your ideas dont match theirs? We are a group of geeky very strong minded and hard headed individuals where our social skills can sometimes lack. Clashes will happen but we all need to know how to be mature and fair about things.


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  # 1792381 31-May-2017 14:53
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PhantomNVD:

none of these address my original statement:


 


I can only think of 3 users I'd like to block for consistent inflammatory and/or useless threads, and constant political left/right/left/right user bashing which would be awesome to have [Filtered] as suggested by Freitasm earlier in this thread.

It's truely not about whether or not I agree with their views, but more that their needless twit/twoo detracts from the central OP discussion so consistently.

Alternately, could we add a FUG (like Godwins) to specifically partition the Trump debate into the Trump thread? Seems like these days just about every other thread more than 2 pages degenerates into a pro/bash Trump discussion again... respectfully, is Trump the new Godwins candidate?


The first issue you are referring to two users making entirely personal comments at each other. It's pointless and contributes nothing to the discussion. If they are not listening ask a mod.

The second is simply going off topic. That's always a fine line. On a recent occasion both you and I asked to move it to the Trump thread and it carried on. It was kind of relevant, so it's a fine line.

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  # 1792385 31-May-2017 15:00
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tdgeek:

 

gbwelly:

 

This thread is a great example of the problem in itself, it has degenerated into belittling jokes and given the pattern of +1s, the echo chamber that so many fear, already exists. I'm not a precious snowflake, but I know bullying when I see it. It is starting to feel more like the stuff.co.nz comments section lately round here.

 

 

 

 

The boorish posts I find very tiresome. I guess that's one way to defend a point, but would be nice for some to learn to discuss, rather than come back all guns blazing with putdowns and a string of adjectives when someone disagrees. Or maybe they cannot handle opposition?

 

 

There is a difference between disagreeing with someone and bullying them. Some may see disagreement as bullying, and to some extent it will always be a matter of definition. But if you really feel some in a thread are going too far, but a mod doesn't agree with you and take action, there remains always the option to just disengage and unsubscribe from the thread in question. You don't have to just sit there and take it if you don't like it.

 

   





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  # 1792406 31-May-2017 15:34
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TimA:

 

 

 

 

 

In an ideal world i suppose we should "report" comments that do not belong where they are.
Whether that will fix the problem, I dont know but its a step in the right direction than just muting everyone as all i see that will create is an elitist society. 

 

Most likely will be abused the heck out of and no one will want to know about us. I would hate to think what the lurkers think of this idea.
I feel its a complete turn off, Who would want to join a community that will mute you if your ideas dont match theirs? We are a group of geeky very strong minded and hard headed individuals where our social skills can sometimes lack. Clashes will happen but we all need to know how to be mature and fair about things.

 

 

 

 

I probably qualify as a lurker and I do read a significant number of threads, but very rarely comment, I often open a reply window and then think 'why bother'. I do +1 users, these up-votes aren't based on the user but if I can see a valid point, even if and the user may be someone I disagree with on many things. Many of the topics mentioned earlier in this thread have some relation to politics and or something potentially divisive and as with politics in general, there appears to be a trend towards division and a refusal to even consider why other people may view things differently.

 

I especially dislike the trend to belittle or dismiss based on someones age, race or gender, none of which may accurately reflect someones life experience.

 

I think its a good thing on this forum to have such a diverse range of people with different opinions - this is key, and I believe some people on the forum need to remember that much of what is said are just that - opinions and preferences. I may not always agree with what I read, but I wouldn't expect to block anyone as I believe even things I might disagree with shouldn't be rejected out of hand.

 

 


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