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  #2060370 22-Jul-2018 12:24
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Slightly off topic, but which opera of the 5 play store listings? ;)

 
 
 

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  #2060372 22-Jul-2018 12:29
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  #2060401 22-Jul-2018 13:41
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Sorry guys, not a huge fan of the full site on mobile, as it doesn’t help old eyes. Too much going on, on the small screen (iPhone 6s)



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  #2060403 22-Jul-2018 13:45
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Rip. M.geekzone. You were a smart concise site. I liked the way you could be easily navigated. You told me how many minutes since somebody last posted in a thread. Your font rendering was consistent so I didn't have to constantly resize things to read you. Your elements were sized correctly to allow navigation by finger. You didn't cut off the left part of your frame while composing replies. You were a good dog. A real pity you were shot through the back of the head last Saturday afternoon. I hope you got a burial.

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  #2060406 22-Jul-2018 14:07
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It is frustrating when features you like disappear.

 

Everyone has a different user experience and I suspect it's based partly on the browser you use.

 

As someone who accesses Geekzone from a laptop and via mobile devices I appreciate having the same layout no matter what device I use.

 

I found the mobile site didn't work for me and the desktop site worked well for me on my mobile devices.  

 

Horses for courses I guess.





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  #2060496 22-Jul-2018 16:38
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That's what I meant 1estar! The font remember rendering is all weird now. I have to press Post Quick Reply twice to post anything.

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  #2060500 22-Jul-2018 16:47
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No problems here. Never have been any problems, that I recall, when using the desktop site on a mobile. Usually use Opera, but not always. I do find the site renders quite a lot better with Opera.

For some, it'll just take time to get used to do a new/different way of doing things. You'll never please all of the people, all of the time, of course.




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  #2060506 22-Jul-2018 16:56
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I've been using opera a bit this afternoon, still getting used to it. I find I still do a lot of zooming in then out again, anf text reflow isn't always perfect so I still end up scrolling left and right sometimes to read a post.

Most sites on mobile are navigable one-handed, being unable to do this is a major loss for me. 1estar summed up all the things I liked about the mobile site pretty well.

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  #2060695 22-Jul-2018 22:02
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I'm sorry, but this is really really horrible. I've been a an Opera user on mobile for yonks, so well versed in it’s nuances, but this makes me not want to use GZ as I mostly use the mobile these days. Normally when on mobile and I come across a desktop site, I just move on. It's not worth the hassle.

I actually liked the mobile version. POWER TO THE PEOPLE ;-)

It's a nice day, let's see what's going on in GZ.
Click for GZ.
Zoom to see main topics.
Click on main topic.
Zoom to see discussion threads.
Click on thread.
Zoom to read at a font size larger than 0.5 point.
Scroll down reading thread. Who was writing that as I can't see - scroll left.
Scroll right to see rest of thread.
Next page.
Oh bugger, 0.5 point font again.
Put reminder in diary to make an appointment with optician - must need new glasses.
Zoom in.
Etc, etc

There is a good reason that mobile versions of websites exist, main one being that they are more readable.

BTW, I thought Google penalised sites that do not feed up mobile versions.

BTW 2. The thing I dislike about Opera Android, is that, as far as I know, you cannot add adblock exceptions for sites such as GZ, which I do on the desktop.




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  #2060710 22-Jul-2018 22:20
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Google does not penalise sites that don't have a mobile version. It penalises sites that do not render or work on mobile browsers.




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  #2060713 22-Jul-2018 22:34
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Further to my tongue in cheek comment above. I'm laying a formal complaint here and now. The full site is abominable to view on a small screen, no matter which browser I've tried I've struggled to even see some of the fonts served up. The elements are too small to use on a touch device one handed. The zoom levels are completely inconsistent moving between fora.
I request you turn the mobile site back on please.
Please.

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  #2060742 23-Jul-2018 05:47
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I second that. My personal opinion is the extra features aren't worth the difficulty I'm having reading the site now. I think the mobile version was a lot tidier and easier to read. Just my 2c.

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  #2060750 23-Jul-2018 07:41
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quickymart: I second that. My personal opinion is the extra features aren't worth the difficulty I'm having reading the site now. I think the mobile version was a lot tidier and easier to read. Just my 2c.

 

I disagree but that is also my personal opinion. The mobile site was from eons ago when Pocket PC was still a thing and didn't scale well on newer devices. It used to drive me crazy when one of the many sandboxed browsers on my iPhone would direct me to the mobile site and the problem is from here it was cached so there was no going back to the regular site.

 

When removing an old feature there is always going to be people who disagree with the change but the majority does indeed use the full site even on mobile (including myself).





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  #2060966 23-Jul-2018 12:47
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Quite a few things here.

 

Admin control. I can fully empathise with the technical reasons behind the changes. I know nothing about the backend, but wonder if it is the software that does not allow the granular control over user posts that you desire. Would a different backend give you what you want?

 

Desktop vs mobile. I have 30 sites on my Opera android speed dial page, including other forum sites. ALL of them render to a mobile version of the desktop site. Well, all except GZ. There are some other sites that I do not look at on my mobile like fordforums.com.au as they render full desktop as per the new GZ. Note the negative aspect in that sentence.

 

User numbers. It is indeed likely that the desktop users outnumber the mobile users as most will be using the work/home PC to access the site. It would be interesting to see the percentage of mobile users that stayed on the mobile version of the site when they were using it on a mobile. You may or may not have that sort of stats available.

 

Correct rendering vs usability. The GZ desktop site renders beautifully on mobile and I can read everything – as long as my eyeball is 8 cm from the screen with my glasses off (I measured). However, this is hardly normal behaviour and at normal reading distance, screens are impossible to read. My score: Rendering 10/10, usability 1/10.

 

Browsers. Browsers seem to fit into two camps where the rendering is almost identical is each camp. (I installed a few additional browsers to check them out.)

 

Big and ugly, but readable. Chrome, Edge. As seen in a screenshot in an earlier post by Mauricio.

 

Tiny and impossible to read. Opera, Firefox, Dolphin. The sceenshot below shows this shows you beautifully the page renders, but remember it is only 68 mm wide on the mobile, at which point it becomes unreadable. If on the PC, try zooming out. How anyone can call this usable is beyond me. [Edit. Changed this paragraph to make more sense of the screendump below. I didn't think it would appear so huge when posted.]

 





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@MartinGZ

 

But the thing about Opera (on Android), is that text reflow actually works when you zoom in and out, so you can size it however you want for readability. I gave up trying to use other browsers to read the full site on my mobile, because text reflow has been crippled, however Opera works just fine and I've been using it that way for a long time and never went near the mobile site.


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