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  Reply # 2192164 6-Mar-2019 13:28
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Not to mention it is stupid advice:



"Making A Plan"


  • Make a safety plan with the guidance of a refuge advocate.
  • Get yourself a pre-paid phone; keep it charged and safe.
  • Keep photocopies of important documents (passport, birth certificate, bank account details, medical notes, driver's licence, etc) and store these at the home of a supportive friend or family member.
  • Keep a journal of all violent incidents, noting dates and events.
  • If you can, open your own bank account and try to save some money.
  • If you have pets you are worried about, consider them in your safety plan.


More like "how to get yourself killed by a psycho".


How about "call the Police IMMEDIATELY" ??


That way protection orders can be put in place, victim support and refuge services arranged etc.


This normalisation of domestic violence and distrust of Police is unhelpful to both victims and the service providers trying to support them.



For people in these situations it is terrifying for them to even think about calling the Police.


It goes something like... call to the Police, Police come around and interview the abuser and victim separately but in the same vicinity. Victim is bloody terrified, doesn't say the full story to the Police, abuser gets away with it and is now angry the police will called, bashes the victim again.


We had a girl in our call center that turned up with bruises around her neck, CC manager pulled her aside for a chat and turns out it was the partner. We said we need to inform Police, she says OK. But then when the police turned up, she didn't want to admit anything to Police. Turns out her family were actually supportive of the low life that beat her, and were of the opinion that the sun shone out his a55.

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  Reply # 2192166 6-Mar-2019 13:28
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I have removed it from mobile. I have added a button to the fotter and removed the sticky overlay on top.



May want to add cursor: pointer; to its style. So it looks clickable when mouse is over it. At the moment it looks like a static image.



Thanks, done.


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  Reply # 2192167 6-Mar-2019 13:29
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I also commend the intention of the campaign however I the message needs to be far more direct;


i.e. "Domestic violence [abuse, neglect etc] is NOT ok... if you are experiencing [examples relevant to website / mall / bar / public place] you NEED to IMMEDIATELY [call 111 / run for help to call 111 / go to this person or area in such place who will call 111].


This comes from personal experience dealing with hundreds of these cases professionally and even personally having driven victims to Police station to make a complaint, obtain a PO, change door locks etc.


And yes - even dealt with the homicides.

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  Reply # 2192168 6-Mar-2019 13:29
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Had a few very deserved lengthy hidings from my dad back in the day that would be considered violence now but back then it was fairly earnt..



... and there lies part of the problem.


Simply because this is male-on-male violence, that it happened 'back in the day' (which isn't that long ago, given your age), and that you "deserved" it doesn't make this attitude appropriate; perpetuating this kind of thing ('it was normal then', 'I deserved it', 'it did me no harm', 'that's why kids are so disrespectful these days') plays a big part in the acceptance and normalisation of violence in our society.


Queue the 'pc gone mad' posts...

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  Reply # 2192172 6-Mar-2019 13:30
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As I said, check your entitlement/prejudice at the door. This is a serious issue and I have talked to people in the frontline who see horrendous things. Sometimes women leave a house with nothing but whatever they are wearing. They have no plan, no advice because they are afraid of contacting anyone.


If you are not prepared to help, don't muddle the discussion.


I am locking this thread.

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