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# 628882 22-May-2012 12:01

Well this is what I get at work from a DTS connection in Wellington to Vodafone

And this is on a 100Mbs Citylink connection going through a local proxy server in the premises. The router is a Mikrotik RB1100AH router.

This is measurably better than your TCL speeds.

To Citylink in Wellington it's obviously better since there are very few hops and none outside the Citylink network

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# 628908 22-May-2012 12:46

quite disappointing, what's the point of having the fastest access speed to TCL if the connection to the rest of NZ and the world is this slow. I much rather have lower access speed but consistent and reliable connection to the rest of the internet.

I can see that coming even worse for UFB: fastest connection to the Local Fiber Company but crappy speed to the retail service providers and blaming each other on performance.

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# 629745 24-May-2012 09:16

Has anybody seen any improvement yet? At least for me, international in the evening is very slow which is one of the reasons I have not even bothered to expedite the installation of the 100Mbs modem. It would hardly make any difference.

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# 629750 24-May-2012 09:21

andar: Yep, I have to agree.

I was switched to the 100Mbps service two weeks ago. My router is only capable of 50Mbps which I consistently get to speedtest servers within New Zealand, but if I try overseas I struggle to get 10Mbps.

I regularly download material from overseas, since upgrading from TC's 15Mbps service I have not seen any real increase in international speed.

Come on TC, when are we going to see some improvement?

As to whether 10Mbps is good depends entirely where you're testing to. Remember the test is a single stream TCP connection. I would expect significantly more than 10Mbps to Australia but wouldn't expect to hit 10Mbps to the USA.

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# 629754 24-May-2012 09:25

sbiddle:
andar: Yep, I have to agree.

I was switched to the 100Mbps service two weeks ago. My router is only capable of 50Mbps which I consistently get to speedtest servers within New Zealand, but if I try overseas I struggle to get 10Mbps.

I regularly download material from overseas, since upgrading from TC's 15Mbps service I have not seen any real increase in international speed.

Come on TC, when are we going to see some improvement?

As to whether 10Mbps is good depends entirely where you're testing to. Remember the test is a single stream TCP connection. I would expect significantly more than 10Mbps to Australia but wouldn't expect to hit 10Mbps to the USA.

Why not? I'd expect to get at least 20 to 30 megabit to Los Angeles. latency is similar as Europe to US which does that regularly.

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# 629756 24-May-2012 09:28

I get 2 Mbps down from London. Are you using TelstraClear for your test or someone else?

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# 629768 24-May-2012 09:40

I just did a test at work (not through TCL but DTS who source fro FX). I got 2.77 on two different servers in London.

Not a full experiment but it does show we have issues overseas

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# 629770 24-May-2012 09:41

lchiu7: I just did a test at work (not through TCL but DTS who source fro FX). I got 2.77 on two different servers in London.

Not a full experiment but it does show we have issues overseas

try uhh maidstone i thikn it was.. near london.. i found it faster.

also speedtest.net is pretty unrealistic for upload speeds, and far away distances. if you go to the urls it requests you can jump to a bigger size image and download..

this is maidstone
http://speedtest.custdc.net/speedtest/random2000x2000.jpg?

although you'd want to use a download client. as loading image in web browser won't tell you speed.

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# 629775 24-May-2012 09:57

freitasm: I get 2 Mbps down from London. Are you using TelstraClear for your test or someone else?

with the way speedtest.net works i find that london tests often do 500x500 images.. which are 500k big.. and don't get up to speed quick enough.. if it was requesting bigger files it'd go faster. i've also found maidstone to be faster.

that said, los angeles should still be requesting the larger files, and have a fighting chance to get up to speed.

palo alto image to download:
http://66.201.42.23/speedtest/random2000x2000.jpg?

los angeles image to download:
http://ndt.dhspeedtest.com/flash/speedtest/random2000x2000.jpg?

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# 629778 24-May-2012 09:59

mercutio:
freitasm: I get 2 Mbps down from London. Are you using TelstraClear for your test or someone else?

with the way speedtest.net works i find that london tests often do 500x500 images.. which are 500k big.. and don't get up to speed quick enough.. if it was requesting bigger files it'd go faster. i've also found maidstone to be faster.

that said, los angeles should still be requesting the larger files, and have a fighting chance to get up to speed.

I know there are limitations on Speedtest but my question remains... Are you getting 20 Mbps to London on a TelstraClear service?

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# 629781 24-May-2012 10:05

freitasm:
mercutio:
freitasm: I get 2 Mbps down from London. Are you using TelstraClear for your test or someone else?

with the way speedtest.net works i find that london tests often do 500x500 images.. which are 500k big.. and don't get up to speed quick enough.. if it was requesting bigger files it'd go faster. i've also found maidstone to be faster.

that said, los angeles should still be requesting the larger files, and have a fighting chance to get up to speed.

I know there are limitations on Speedtest but my question remains... Are you getting 20 Mbps to London on a TelstraClear service?

nah when i was using telstraclear i could only get like 13 megabit to london even with a proxy.. (it was a 15 megabit connection)

Downloading those 2000x2000 images on dsl I only get around 1megabyte/sec average. There are limitations in how fast things will go, especially for small files.

There are two main measures of europe performance: download speeds, and web browsing performance. Chrome benchmarking plugin is a good way to measure the web browsing peformance, but for download speed a much larger file is really needed for evaluating performance.

And interactive to europe is going to suck regardless.

I've done quite a lot of testing with speedtest.net with different providers. And I have found that London servers can be strangely slow. Although I have found that proxy tends to work around that. Also for some reason there is often a pause before the speed test starts.

Actually I just did some further testing and with curl I'm not getting great speeds to either of those California servers even from other parts of the US! I wonder how much the speed testing is based upon US load as well, which European tests may avoid more often.

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# 629785 24-May-2012 10:30

So in reality you are posting about achieving speeds without even being a current customer?

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# 629786 24-May-2012 10:34

freitasm: So in reality you are posting about achieving speeds without even being a current customer?

well, to london all isp's are slow on speedtest.net so it's a generic thing, and you can't blame the cable network for it.

with ufb, and high speed cable, and so on there's going to be a continuation of people getting nowhere near their advertised speed internationally in some tests. with adsl off peak it's common for people to be able to get full speed using bittorrent or download accelerators.

but even with adsl on peak issues have seen even with multiple connections, cable used to be fine for getting full speed on 15 megabit with multiple connections. is it going to stay the same with 100 megabit?

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# 629787 24-May-2012 10:37

Certainly not the cable network itself.

Mercutio gave me a link to a file which he says is in LAX. I've downloaded the test file at about 13 Mbps.

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# 629796 24-May-2012 10:59

freitasm: Certainly not the cable network itself.

Mercutio gave me a link to a file which he says is in LAX. I've downloaded the test file at about 13 Mbps.

that doesn't mean it's not the cable network necessarily, there could be small amounts of packet loss.

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