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  # 613299 22-Apr-2012 20:11
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sbiddle:
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MikeHales: I don't understand why you would expect a knee jerk reaction on data allowances. Do you use all of your allowance or is it the perceived value of I pay x and get y?


All im saying is that they could have let their customers know that they're working on something. At the moment we've had nothing. Literally.



The average NZ user is still using somewhere in the vicinity of ~15GB per month. The average US user is still only using close to double that with their "unlimited" plans, which are in effect 250GB caps anyway.

Those on here that think that everybody wants and needs a 500GB cap need to realise they're in the 1% minority, they are not an average user.



I would strongly disagree with the above post .. average .. where/what is  the measure ?

americans are dumping data with starting sizes of 9GB (average 22gb check torrent sites )... the content of such data i wont discuss but needless to say it is still *very* popular. I have never heard of these caps in America .. but I did here they were liking the NZ model ..more likely propaganda to calm the masses after Stephen Frys insightful comment. 

I also think those on here in truth would rather have *NO* caps because they really suck.

Those on here that think only 1% needs a 500GB cap need to catch up with the amount of streaming digital media .. and its only going to get worse .. advertising hasn't even kicked into full gear on all this yet.

Others that think vodafone is slow .. my previous ISP xnet still hasn't changed there pricing since last year .. and its pretty expensive for a simple naked dsl account.


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  # 613316 22-Apr-2012 20:28
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techsta: Those on here that think only 1% needs a 500GB cap need to catch up with the amount of streaming digital media .. and its only going to get worse .. advertising hasn't even kicked into full gear on all this yet.



I disagee entirely.

Those that think everybody needs a 500GB cap needs to look at reality, and realise they're a blip in statisticss. Average data use is exactly what it is, average data use. If the average US user with an "unlimited" cap is only consuming ~30GB then clearly it shows that not everybody wants or needs 500GB of data. This isn't to say there aren't people who want or need these sorts of caps, and that they won't be needed in the future, my comment is purely that they are a minority, not the majority.

As for 250GB caps in America, these have become commonplace in the last year or two with most of the major ISP's.



 
 
 
 


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  # 613351 22-Apr-2012 21:19
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Look at cable and mobile providers in the USA and you see they are now limiting at 250-350 GB and 2-3GB. And that's been going on for a few years now. Way before Mr Fry caused a stir around here and the general public woke up.

We now have plans that are more generous than most in the US.




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  # 613441 23-Apr-2012 06:25
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I find the 60 GB plan is sufficient for my household. Only once did I have to pay $30 for another 60GB but last month we stayed under and we are on track to staying under again this month. We have 3 computers in our house and one of them is used for online games as well.

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  # 613501 23-Apr-2012 09:09
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freitasm: Look at cable and mobile providers in the USA and you see they are now limiting at 250-350 GB and 2-3GB. And that's been going on for a few years now. Way before Mr Fry caused a stir around here and the general public woke up.

We now have plans that are more generous than most in the US.


Which ones .. where is all this ? I hope you are not talking about wireless data?  I like to see proof when people post this stuff ... so the top 3 mention nothing about these 250-350gb caps .. i know people who use both AT&T and Verizon .. comcast also didn't do anything in regards to caps ... not only do they not seem to cap .. they supply video content themselves. As for the 2-3gb speed ? They actually charge you more for 6, 12, 18, 105 etc. 

from this link below you can click on each provider or manually go to each provider to see there offerings.
link http://isp-review.toptenreviews.com/

I would be really happy to pay for faster guaranteed speed vs caps. 

You might also want to read a recent 3 news article. 

http://www.3news.co.nz/Data-caps-top-reason-for-switching-ISPs---survey/tabid/421/articleID/250109/Default.aspx

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  # 613522 23-Apr-2012 09:45
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Fantastic, lots of off topic talk about what everyone else has world wide, hardly relevant to this thread about if a Vodafone New Zealand will be matching the other ISPS recent data cap increases, specific to Vodafone NZ customers.

The maximum amount of residential dsl data that can be purchased from Vodafone is 120GB, for some people, its not enough, for everyone else, the more data they can get for the same price would bring it more into international average, it opens them up to look at things like online backups, quickflix, cloud storage/dropbox etc

For myself, i know about 15 ppl overseas in AU/UK/US from the mediaportal chat rooms, , and i pay the most money per month for my dsl, and get the least for it compared to them, thats the only international stat i personally care about.

anyway, like sbiddle and freitasm i have now contributed bringing this thread even more off topic so its time to unsubscribe from this thread, and since you are the mod & owner, feel free to PM/email me any ban notices.








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  # 613551 23-Apr-2012 10:32
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techsta:
freitasm: Look at cable and mobile providers in the USA and you see they are now limiting at 250-350 GB and 2-3GB. And that's been going on for a few years now. Way before Mr Fry caused a stir around here and the general public woke up.

We now have plans that are more generous than most in the US.


Which ones .. where is all this ? I hope you are not talking about wireless data?  I like to see proof when people post this stuff ...


From 2008: Comcast's bandwidth cap. And from the company's own FAQ about excessive use of data:


Comcast has set a data consumption threshold ("threshold") on monthly bandwidth consumption (including both upstream and downstream usage) by residential users of its high-speed Internet service ("XFINITY Internet"). Currently, that threshold allows a residential customer to send or receive up to 250 Gigabytes (GB) of data in a calendar month. This includes data in any form (including movies, photos, music, videos, e-mails, computer back-ups, or other types of files) that a customer uses his or her XFINITY Internet to send or receive over the public Internet, including data sent by one XFINITY Internet customer to another.

If an XFINITY Internet residential customer exceeds the 250 GB threshold in a month, we consider that to be "excessive use" for purposes of our Acceptable Use Policy.


Important to see they haven't changed that threshold in four years now. There are lots of other examples, but Comcast is pretty much the majority of broadband users in the USA.

techsta: I like to see proof when people post this stuff ... 


I would like to believe people like myself and sbiddle would have a little bit of credibility as we follow this topic quite closely, unlike people who "wake up" when a celebrity complains.





 
 
 
 


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  # 613631 23-Apr-2012 13:09
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dan: Fantastic, lots of off topic talk about what everyone else has world wide, hardly relevant to this thread about if a Vodafone New Zealand will be matching the other ISPS recent data cap increases, specific to Vodafone NZ customers.


It has all ready been made pretty clear by John there is no further information available for the public at this point, what else did you want to know?

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  # 613663 23-Apr-2012 14:08
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freitasm:

From 2008: Comcast's bandwidth cap. And from the company's own FAQ about excessive use of data:



lol in 2008 i would have loved a 250GB acceptable use policy :) 

now lets equate that to todays standards



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  # 613699 23-Apr-2012 14:51
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LOL given what I can do in a month with my 90GB, I can't really imagine what I would do with 250GB that was legal :)

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  # 613735 23-Apr-2012 15:14
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networkn: LOL given what I can do in a month with my 90GB, I can't really imagine what I would do with 250GB that was legal :)


depends on standards .. a lot of my friends like HD quality even on youtube etc. then you have games that update automagically via steam or other means .. with some games being over 20g for a download .. not to mention in-game traffic that can push a lot. So many ways to use it .. and that is one person .. what about a household ?

You can download lots of legal content via bittorrent .. however I just convinced someone I know to remove utorrent cause there grandkid was hookin up the hood :) with the latez and gratez .. they are happy they will be getting 160gb per month next month from telecom.

I think the overseas comparisons are needed because that is most likely the cause of the bandwidth required. NZ Content is minimal i would imagine. 

it will be interesting to see some of these opinions of low bandwidth requirements in a year .. so many technologies are now internet reliant .. heard of the cloud anyone ? 




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  # 614165 24-Apr-2012 09:24
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networkn: LOL given what I can do in a month with my 90GB, I can't really imagine what I would do with 250GB that was legal :)


Is that on VF? Just curious as I didn't know you could get 90GB plans on VF.

Would tend to agree though. I get by fine on 60GB;  120GB would certainly be more than enough for our household. TBH I'd prefer to see a more modest increase in datacaps and some other incentives :) some sort of discount for landline + broadband + mobile phone accounts (similar to the naked deals, but with landline) would be nice!



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  # 614166 24-Apr-2012 09:27
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Sidefx: if you have your home, business, broadband and mobile phones with Vf you can have calling groups which is a pretty good incentive. I wasn't referring to my 90GB coming from VF I was just saying 90GB seems to be close to enough, though last night one of my game patches was 14GB and that put a serious dent in my planning.

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  # 614209 24-Apr-2012 10:25
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@networkn: must admit I've not heard of calling groups, and google isn't helping much, what are they? I don't pay for or control my business mobile, just landline and a couple of personal mobiles.


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