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#730783 11-Dec-2012 20:11

Kelem:
johnr: Did you only start this thread to troll?

No i didn't start it to troll. just saying its expensive.

Define "expensive". What countries(s) and pricing exactly are you comparing us to?

Yes I'll agree pricing is higher than somewhere like Australia which is probably the most competitive mobile marketplace in the world with some of the cheapest pricing, and right now it's a race to the bottom with both Vodafone and Optus struggling heavily.

There are current offerings in the marketplace are probably better than what you'll get in many other countries in the world, so I dispute your overall claim.

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#730790 11-Dec-2012 20:28

I have to laugh at someone who thinks NZ pricing is confusing compared to Ozzie. The whole value cap thing they have there is easily the most ridiculously complicated pricing structure in the telco world.

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#730791 11-Dec-2012 20:29

LOL, I'm in for that get $500 credit for $60 deal. Let me know when that plan kicks off Johnr.

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#730804 11-Dec-2012 20:52

Jaxson: LOL, I'm in for that get $500 credit for $60 deal. Let me know when that plan kicks off Johnr.

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#730808 11-Dec-2012 21:07

He's never lived in Oz so you can't take his word ... Go live there for two years and then tell us which one is more confusing

I have and both are about the same on the confusing level but I think nz plans are easier to decipher.

If you are talking about value for money which it seems you are then perhaps we are a little behind in the sixty bucks category but look at the cheap prepaid with unlimited calls and texts then I can't say you can better that

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#730812 11-Dec-2012 21:12

Kelem: Works pretty well in Aussie

No it doesnt. its confusing as hell and other things not in the bundle are crazy priced.

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#730836 11-Dec-2012 21:39

Kelem: Like i said works pretty well in Aussie, but you do get 1000$ worth of calls and 3 GB of data for the month.

FYI only snakes i have seen in 2 years of going there for a month at a time have been the ones i have gone looking for, they sure know your around.

Not trolling just saying

And that's the problem right there.... You believe the marketing.

You get exactly what you pay for....not thousands of dollars "worth".

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#730850 11-Dec-2012 21:53

johnr: we don't have snakes here

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#730862 11-Dec-2012 21:58

You guys crack me up

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#730870 11-Dec-2012 22:01

I like the Lebara unlimited plan for $AUD30.00

http://prepaidplans.com.au/mobile-phone/best-prepaid-mobile-unlimited-plans/

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#730918 11-Dec-2012 22:23

Ah now we're talkin'

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#731084 12-Dec-2012 08:40

[I think Vodafone BB and Mobile should be different forums] I thought the OP was talking about BB pricing plans. I was inclined to agree about the pricing. Before I left the Uk I was paying ?14 a month for uncapped 8mb/1mb broadband. When I came here I was getting a 20GB cap as part of a $105 Telstra package.

Even now I am paying $90 for only 80GB [with landline on VF] I see there are 100GB plans for slightly more. I only hope there is another round up cap bumps.

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#731291 12-Dec-2012 12:14

oxnsox:
Kelem: Like i said works pretty well in Aussie, but you do get 1000$ worth of calls and 3 GB of data for the month.

FYI only snakes i have seen in 2 years of going there for a month at a time have been the ones i have gone looking for, they sure know your around.

Not trolling just saying

And that's the problem right there.... You believe the marketing.

You get exactly what you pay for....not thousands of dollars "worth".

Like the $900 "worth" of Optus calling I have accumulated over the past two years. All that is saying is there is some limited Optus-to-Optus free minutes thrown in as a marketing ploy. The accumulation is a result of my contacts using other networks so I don't get any advantage from calling within the same network. Since the plan costs would be taking the intra-network calling into account there's nothing free about it.

Then, if you want to talk about confusing, that Ozzie provider keeps prepay alive on condition of top-ups occurring within a certain period of time. But the top-ups they count from are only voice top-ups. Top-up data or any other service and it doesn't count. There is, however, nothing on their website or terms stating that a top-up is not a top-up unless its a certain kind of top-up.

For broadband the situation is worse. Try getting a choice on the Gold Coast, for example. It's Telstra and only Telstra. They charge the earth for very poor offerings and service but other providers are not allowed to service the area. Locked-in syndrome is alive and well in Aussie.

Let's not forget the phone locking.

Thank heavens Vodafone NZ doesn't work the way Ozzie providers do or Geekzone would be overrun with people complaining that plans are too restrictive and confusing!

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#731327 12-Dec-2012 12:58

Having lived in both, I can say that the Ozzie plans, yes, are more confusing. But once you get used to how they work it's fine.

They do allow greater flexibility tho. For example, my plan is $35/month and gives me zero rated on net calls, 1.5GB of data and $550 'dollars' worth of credit to use on calling as I like.

I can use this for domestic or international calling, or a mix of, as I see fit. (Also texts cost me 20c from this figure. Calls within Oz are something like 99c/min + 30c flag fall. Calls to NZ are about $3/min + FF. As long as you roughly know the rates it's fine.

99c and $3 a min may sound high, but really they are much lower. Assuming I get the on net calling and data for 'free', my $35 turns into $550. So basically a factor of 15. So my 'real' cost of calls is 1/15th or so of the advertised rate.

So in effect, a call within Oz is actually about 7c a min + 2c FF and a call to NZ is about $0.20 a min + FF.

Now I have my head around it, I prefer this flexibility to just having a set number of national minutes to use.

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#731337 12-Dec-2012 13:00

As part of my plan I also have a $2 (real money) a month add on that gives me a SIM card I can use for data at a rate of 2c/MB (Or roughly $20/GB). I just pay for what I use and if I don't use any, it only costs me $2 a month. And even then, $20/GB is pretty good.

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