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  Reply # 772321 1-Mar-2013 15:18
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morganjterrill: Actually, you're right ^ I incorrectly compared the 4G mobile broadband plans to mobile plans. Although it is important to note that extra data packs can be "added on" with Telstra AU (for example $60 for 8GB). 


Kind of off topic, but I was in Kenya recently, and there pricing for add-on bundles for both prepay and postpay on SafariCom (partly owned by vodafone) was:

Bundle, Price (Ksh), NZD, Validity Period
4MB 5 $0.07 7 Days
8MB 10 $0.14 7 Days
16MB 20 $0.28 7 Days
40MB 50 $0.70 90 Days
80MB 100 $1.41 90 Days
200MB 250 $3.52 90 Days
500MB 500 $7.04 90 Days
1.5GB 1000 $14.08 120 Days
3GB 1999 $28.15 180 Days
8GB 3999 $56.32 180 Days
25GB 11499 $161.96 180 Days
I could get HS-DPA+ out in the Masai tribal lands (no LTE or dual carrier when I was there).


Whats the average income in Kenya?


Google says around $2,278 NZD or 160,000 KES per month.

It is all irrelevent.

Vodafone is a business, if there price is too high don't use them, if the price of all mobile broadband is too high don't use it. I actually think that for my $19 per month I am seeing reasonable value.

Here's an idea, don't stream HD movies on the go.



I was also in Kenya, and looked into why they have such good coverage (We tracked Gorillas in Uganda, and the trackers used their cell phones to keep in contact, in very dense bush etc).

Kanya never had very good copper network or phones, so all the East African governments spents lots of money to make sure they had good mobile networks.

Also, as they have basically no banking system, most payments now are made on the MPesa system, all using mobiles. So they had to have the infrastructure to make it work.

Also did you see the ugly cell towers all over the most divine wilderness spots etc , cheap to build if you don't worry about the RMA and things like that :-)

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  Reply # 772358 1-Mar-2013 15:50
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rokki: Hi really enjoying the new speed but the data limits are going to be a problem. I went to a cafe in town tethered my iPhone 5 to my ipad and streamed netflix for 50 minutes and 700mb gone just like that. The quality was better than using my R208 wifi hotspot no buffering or degrading of picture quality. LTE will allow us to do more faster and in higher quality. My plan includes 4gb of data per month for my phone. Lets hope Vodafone relax the limits :)

Looks like you should be watching data angel!

I wonder how many customers are going to land themselves in the same situation when they dont realize what a GB is in terms of real world use, and use the service for "things like streaming HD movies" (note the plural!), although if your netflix is anything to go by, thats 1.6gb for a single 120 min film. I suppose to be fair, fitting a couple of those into a 4gb data plan does qualify the plural. Couple of mobile movie nights per month anyone? 

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  Reply # 772380 1-Mar-2013 17:03
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eXDee:
rokki: Hi really enjoying the new speed but the data limits are going to be a problem. I went to a cafe in town tethered my iPhone 5 to my ipad and streamed netflix for 50 minutes and 700mb gone just like that. The quality was better than using my R208 wifi hotspot no buffering or degrading of picture quality. LTE will allow us to do more faster and in higher quality. My plan includes 4gb of data per month for my phone. Lets hope Vodafone relax the limits :)

Looks like you should be watching data angel!

I wonder how many customers are going to land themselves in the same situation when they dont realize what a GB is in terms of real world use, and use the service for "things like streaming HD movies" (note the plural!), although if your netflix is anything to go by, thats 1.6gb for a single 120 min film. I suppose to be fair, fitting a couple of those into a 4gb data plan does qualify the plural. Couple of mobile movie nights per month anyone? 


They say don't watch HD movies but to be fair when using the Netflix app you don't really have the option to tone down the quality. If it has a good strong fast signal then it will try and give you the best quality. Data Angel is ok but could start to get expensive. My mobile bill is over $400 a month anyway including partners phone a spare phone and my 5gb wifi hotspot plan. :)




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  Reply # 772381 1-Mar-2013 17:04
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Things will get even better when 4K video streaming services start - Sony are saying 100GB+ for a single movie in that scenario. Awesome.




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  Reply # 772419 1-Mar-2013 18:32
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NZCoderGuy: $10 a month extra, for the privilege of burning through your data cap faster?

I am failing to see the logic in that? I would have thought it was a given..


Don't be disingenuous. Do you complain paying extra for a v8 in your car just because it burns through your fuel faster? I don't like the $10 fee either, but at the end of the day, it's not JUST so you can burn through your cap faster and to suggest it is, isn't reasonable or representative of the facts.



If you are going to use a car analogy for 4G then yes you would complain if your V8 ran out of gas before it left the drive way.

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  Reply # 772467 1-Mar-2013 20:41
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networkn:
NZCoderGuy: $10 a month extra, for the privilege of burning through your data cap faster?

I am failing to see the logic in that? I would have thought it was a given..


Don't be disingenuous. Do you complain paying extra for a v8 in your car just because it burns through your fuel faster? I don't like the $10 fee either, but at the end of the day, it's not JUST so you can burn through your cap faster and to suggest it is, isn't reasonable or representative of the facts.



If you are going to use a car analogy for 4G then yes you would complain if your V8 ran out of gas before it left the drive way.


That's about the worst analogy I've ever heard. Has nothing to do with speed, and pretty much says that the owner of the V8 is an idiot for opting in when they're just gonna sit in the driveway with the car idling for hours.

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  Reply # 772471 1-Mar-2013 20:49
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The car analogy makes sense. It's as if you had a V8 with a small petrol tank. You can go fast, but you can't complete the trip because you run out of gas midway through it.

On the other hand people should stop having this dream that mobile data can be used like fixed line broadband is. They are for different situations and mobile data is delivered through a limited resource.

So, yes, use it for uploading photos, reading emails, working from the client's office or from a cafe. Ten years ago when I was on call we had a five minutes response time and ten minutes to be on a conference call, connected to a customer's site. During the week on call we didn't leave the house - pretty much home - office - home. Mobile data would make a lot of sense then.

But when people tell me they want to watch movies on mobile - and HD movies for that matter on a small screen... Come one, just get an unlimited fixed line broadband connection and be done with it.




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  Reply # 772475 1-Mar-2013 21:14
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Hey does anyone know what cities are getting 4G? I saw on stuff they said 15 cities were getting it but did not say which. Just AKL, WLG, CHC.

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  Reply # 772478 1-Mar-2013 21:17
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Best idea look at the 15 that got 3G first and work off that (guessing)

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  Reply # 772495 1-Mar-2013 22:03
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Nate001: Hey does anyone know what cities are getting 4G? I saw on stuff they said 15 cities were getting it but did not say which. Just AKL, WLG, CHC.


New Zealand only has 15 cities.





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  Reply # 772510 1-Mar-2013 22:32
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Nate001: Hey does anyone know what cities are getting 4G? I saw on stuff they said 15 cities were getting it but did not say which. Just AKL, WLG, CHC.


New Zealand only has 15 cities.






Well that answers that

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  Reply # 772513 1-Mar-2013 22:39
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Nationwide by end of 2014 is my pick!




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  Reply # 772524 1-Mar-2013 23:52
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what i dont understand is why they havent just rolled it out to everyone automaticlly, none of this $10 add on, must be rich and on account to use crap. i want it on my $19 prepay pack!





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  Reply # 772526 1-Mar-2013 23:58
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hamish225: what i dont understand is why they havent just rolled it out to everyone automaticlly, none of this $10 add on, must be rich and on account to use crap. i want it on my $19 prepay pack!


Not everyone pays $10 only on the lower plans and there is a reason why prepay does not have access yet, It's not because we don't want to give them access but it's not possible

Here is a test done this evening on the way home in Takapuna near Shore City, Takapuna 4G site is not live yet so the 4G coverage was coming off Hauraki corner



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  Reply # 772527 2-Mar-2013 00:00
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hamish225: what i dont understand is why they havent just rolled it out to everyone automaticlly, none of this $10 add on, must be rich and on account to use crap. i want it on my $19 prepay pack!


Not everyone pays $10 only on the lower plans and there is a reason why prepay does not have access yet, It's not because we don't want to give them access but it's not possible


John


yes but the 'must be rich' part still stands :P

what is the reason you cant give prepay users access, might i ask?





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