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  Reply # 771541 28-Feb-2013 10:24
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mercutio: my phone is 7.2 megabit i think.  something like that, so i'm not eligible for 3gdc or 4g, but i would prefer slightly faster speeds.  currently 2degrees is about 3 or 4 times faster on the same phone.


That tells me that possibly 2degrees has a cell site closer to you with less users. 


same location.  likely to be backhaul issue.  

You are saying both 2degrees and Vodafone cell sites are in the same location, or are you in the same location? Because that makes a lot of difference.

And yes, backhaul issues. If you have 3G on a cell site with backhaul contention then adding 4G will not solve those issues. It may well aggravate them in the short term.





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  Reply # 771542 28-Feb-2013 10:24
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Sitting in Newmarket with 2 LTE devices (my phone plan seems to have it included, unsure about tablet) and no LTE. :( looking forward to finally trying this out though!




 


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 771543 28-Feb-2013 10:26
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NonprayingMantis:
But there really is no material difference (for the customer) between 3GDC and 4G ESPECIALLY with data plans typically 500MB-1GB


There are fundamental differences for some uses.

The key to LTE is it's a fundamental shift to a fully IP based air interface. At the end of the day HSDPA was a bolt on to the rel 99 WCDMA standard, and one of the biggest failings was the capacity, and hard handovers. Hard handovers are gone with LTE meaning the ability to deliver seemless data sessions while mobile is vastly improved, and capacity is also vastly superior.

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  Reply # 771544 28-Feb-2013 10:28
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mercutio: my phone is 7.2 megabit i think.  something like that, so i'm not eligible for 3gdc or 4g, but i would prefer slightly faster speeds.  currently 2degrees is about 3 or 4 times faster on the same phone.


That tells me that possibly 2degrees has a cell site closer to you with less users. 


same location.  likely to be backhaul issue.  

You are saying both 2degrees and Vodafone cell sites are in the same location, or are you in the same location? Because that makes a lot of difference.

And yes, backhaul issues. If you have 3G on a cell site with backhaul contention then adding 4G will not solve those issues. It may well aggravate them in the short term.



both 2d/vodafone same cell site location.  if there is backhaul contention, then if they add 4g they'll need to fix that first, yes.  but they're unlikely to fix it without justification.


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  Reply # 771545 28-Feb-2013 10:30
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sbiddle:
NonprayingMantis:
But there really is no material difference (for the customer) between 3GDC and 4G ESPECIALLY with data plans typically 500MB-1GB


There are fundamental differences for some uses.

The key to LTE is it's a fundamental shift to a fully IP based air interface. At the end of the day HSDPA was a bolt on to the rel 99 WCDMA standard, and one of the biggest failings was the capacity, and hard handovers. Hard handovers are gone with LTE meaning the ability to deliver seemless data sessions while mobile is vastly improved, and capacity is also vastly superior.


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  Reply # 771549 28-Feb-2013 10:35
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NonprayingMantis:
sbiddle:
NonprayingMantis:
But there really is no material difference (for the customer) between 3GDC and 4G ESPECIALLY with data plans typically 500MB-1GB


There are fundamental differences for some uses.

The key to LTE is it's a fundamental shift to a fully IP based air interface. At the end of the day HSDPA was a bolt on to the rel 99 WCDMA standard, and one of the biggest failings was the capacity, and hard handovers. Hard handovers are gone with LTE meaning the ability to deliver seemless data sessions while mobile is vastly improved, and capacity is also vastly superior.


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  Reply # 771550 28-Feb-2013 10:36
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Peppery: Sitting in Newmarket with 2 LTE devices (my phone plan seems to have it included, unsure about tablet) and no LTE. :( looking forward to finally trying this out though!


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  Reply # 771551 28-Feb-2013 10:36
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Dairyxox:
NonprayingMantis:
sbiddle:
NonprayingMantis:
But there really is no material difference (for the customer) between 3GDC and 4G ESPECIALLY with data plans typically 500MB-1GB


There are fundamental differences for some uses.

The key to LTE is it's a fundamental shift to a fully IP based air interface. At the end of the day HSDPA was a bolt on to the rel 99 WCDMA standard, and one of the biggest failings was the capacity, and hard handovers. Hard handovers are gone with LTE meaning the ability to deliver seemless data sessions while mobile is vastly improved, and capacity is also vastly superior.


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Red towers go faster!


LOL VF need to add this to their marketing!

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  Reply # 771552 28-Feb-2013 10:37
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SteveON: Can we make this a users thread?


Is it against the FUG? 

Or, check with the moderators if you're not sure. 

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  Reply # 771553 28-Feb-2013 10:39
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surfisup1000:
SteveON: Can we make this a users thread?


Is it against the FUG? 

Or, check with the moderators if you're not sure. 


That was a sarcastic comment. SteveOn was joking based on a complaint in another topic from someone who created a "owner's thread" for some new product that wasn't even available yet a few weeks back.







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  Reply # 771554 28-Feb-2013 10:40
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heavenlywild: So there's no increase in data caps for 4G? That really defeats the purpose doesn't it? Most likely you will use more data with increased speed.


You do your thing much much faster!



Yes, but, if webpages load faster then you do more 'things'. 

I'm surprised they didn't offer some increase in cap at the same time. 

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  Reply # 771560 28-Feb-2013 10:41
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sbiddle:
NonprayingMantis:
But there really is no material difference (for the customer) between 3GDC and 4G ESPECIALLY with data plans typically 500MB-1GB


There are fundamental differences for some uses.

The key to LTE is it's a fundamental shift to a fully IP based air interface. At the end of the day HSDPA was a bolt on to the rel 99 WCDMA standard, and one of the biggest failings was the capacity, and hard handovers. Hard handovers are gone with LTE meaning the ability to deliver seemless data sessions while mobile is vastly improved, and capacity is also vastly superior.


So, it makes the telco's life easier?




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  Reply # 771568 28-Feb-2013 10:48
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10678053



PLEASE bring back URL Detection, in a tech forum it's frustrating to have to manually type tags!


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  Reply # 771574 28-Feb-2013 10:51
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freitasm: Please use BBCODE.


I did.  I put [url] tags around the url. Manually!

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