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  #830831 5-Jun-2013 09:47
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As it costs ISP's it is clearly a place where throttling can save real cash.


Actually, I think that's a fallacy.  It is true in markets where accounts are unmetered, but NZ has metered accounts.  ISPs charge per byte, and make a profit on every byte they deliver.  Therefore, there should be no incentive to not deliver a byte.

The only issue would be if a prime time byte was more expensive than an off-peak byte (which it probably is).  If that's the case, they should offer a discount on off-peak to shift discretionary traffic to overnight.  Much better way to deal with it.  As it stands, I have no incentive to delay any bulk transfers, so I don't.

As long as the incremental cost per byte is covered by the charge, there is no reason for the ISP to not act as the best bit pipe they can.

Which is why ISPs like SNAP are doing so well.

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so do power companies, and since being privatised there is less and less incentive to have spare capacity, so when there's a problem/outage it means that a lot of people face power cuts due to not having enough power.

basically if you spend money on capacity you don't need, and you just charge per gb, then you're wasting money paying for bandwidth you're not using, so it encourages financially-motivated businesses to keep tight margins on bandwidth.

if you look at https://www.ams-ix.net/technical/statistics for instance, it's common for bandwidth usage to vary depending on time of day.  that's a peering exchange with nice easy graphs to view, and i expect nz to have slightly higher overnight usage as a significant number of users have either slow connections or off-peak advantages.  but one thing to note in that is even on a huge peering exchange doing heaps of traffic there is a significant bias towards the evening having higher traffic but if more capacity is bought it'll only cover the peak time traffic, so there's less return on investment.

which is a little similar to what's happening with power.  the first line of defense with power is to start turning how water off, and give people a reduced power rate if they allow this.  the second is high volume users that can vary their loads are charged rolling rates based upon demand. (so if power station fails they can just switch off and lose some production or such, and in return get cheaper rates most of the time), and the third is rolling blackouts where power is cut on purpose to keep up with demand.



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  #832988 9-Jun-2013 12:51
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Update:

Have been going through 'trouble shooting' with Vodafone tech support staff re: the You Tube video streaming problems since Thursday.

Loaded the IP addresses 203.97.78.43 and 203.97.78.44 on my computer as fixed IP addresses for all of Thursday. (already loaded on router)

You Tube Videos were playing fine, No stalling or buffering problems

Removed the above fixed IP Addresses from the computer on Friday.

Cleared my You Tube accounts browsing history, and cleared the DNS cache.

Vodafone apparently increased the 'provisioning' in my area as well on Thursday night.

You Tube videos are [currently] running fine, however not sure how any of the above resolved the problems with You Tube Video playing and caching.

Vodafone tech support will check with me again on Tuesday to see if the problems have returned.

 
 
 
 


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  #832990 9-Jun-2013 12:54
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MaxLV: Vodafone apparently increased the 'provisioning' in my area as well on Thursday night.


Not specific for your area and the help desk might not know it, but... The grapevine tells me Vodafone has put more international capacity mid week.






 

 

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  #833116 9-Jun-2013 16:56
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freitasm:
MaxLV: Vodafone apparently increased the 'provisioning' in my area as well on Thursday night.


Not specific for your area and the help desk might not know it, but... The grapevine tells me Vodafone has put more international capacity mid week.




The call about the 'provisioning' was not from the Help Desk or Tech Support, and they did say it was for my area (Central Wellington).

At this stage I am not sure that the things I have tried for Tech Support have actually fixed the You Tube problem, as they are aimed at the problem being with my computers. The two threads here indicate it is not  just individual customers computers causing the problem.


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  #833148 9-Jun-2013 17:51
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Some very nice upgrades are going on in the back ground and are now coming into place and customers are now starting to see the benefit of this work, Still more to come

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  #833336 10-Jun-2013 07:49
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freitasm:
MaxLV: Vodafone apparently increased the 'provisioning' in my area as well on Thursday night.


Not specific for your area and the help desk might not know it, but... The grapevine tells me Vodafone has put more international capacity mid week.




Whilst its good to see....it sad that this only happens after serious bad press.....

Vodafone..you have the stats....why not just do this as it is required...and perhaps publish some good press as you do it???



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  #833381 10-Jun-2013 09:35
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I don't know this was a result of "bad press". It could be the timing.

Who really knows? Not us, outside.




 

 

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  #833384 10-Jun-2013 09:42
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mattbush:
Whilst its good to see....it sad that this only happens after serious bad press.....

Vodafone..you have the stats....why not just do this as it is required...and perhaps publish some good press as you do it???




Isn't that exactly what they have done? A circuit reaches capacity so they added more.

Adding capacity isn't quite as simple as deciding you're hungry so you put bread in the toaster and 3 1/2 mins later it's ready.


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